Woman in Minnesota fatally shot by ICE agent during raid, video shows(www.theguardian.com)
41 pointsby merusamea day ago4 comments
  • sandruso21 hours ago
    Use of gun should be the last resort. Can you imagine to shoot somebody like that?
    • krapp19 hours ago
      This is the way American law enforcement acts all the time, usually around black people. I guess it's just shocking when it happens to a white person.
    • akimbostrawman20 hours ago
      I think getting hit by a SUV is what you would call "last resort" territory.
      • Bridged77563 hours ago
        The guy who was involved in an identical incident a couple of months ago? Standing in front of a car in a tense situation against all logic and procedure, again?

        It's surely "last resort" just as it's "last resort" for me to pull out a gun as a "last resort" in a fight I caused.

        Either he is severely mentally incapable or he was looking for a reason to murder someone. The good ol' shoulder bump in the dancefloor.

        What's crazier is that a clear swerve to drive away is being sold as an attack, and worse, it justifying 4 point blank shots to the face.

      • zppln20 hours ago
        If I where the officer in front of a reving car my instinct would be to move out of the way, not pull my gun and fire at the driver.
        • akimbostrawman19 hours ago
          Then good that you aren't a officer because they can and do both. If someone is willing to drive over a cop they won't stop on anybody else and should be stopped with equal or greater force.
          • beedeebeedee16 hours ago
            You are wrong on several points. It is policy not to shoot a car like that even if it is driving at the officer (which this vehicle was not doing and can clearly be seen from multiple camera angles). Shooting the driver will not stop the car, it will just kill the driver.
            • directevolve15 hours ago
              And in this case, shooting her made the situation much more dangerous. It caused her dead foot to stomp the gas pedal, dangerously accelerating the car uncontrollably until it crashed on the side of the road.
          • mothballed15 hours ago
            An officer yes, the person you're replying to, no.

            Minnesota is a duty to retreat state (in public).

            Some animals are more equal than others.

        • consz19 hours ago
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      • bakies10 hours ago
        he didn't even limp away, far from last resort territory.
  • akimbostrawmana day ago
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    • directevolve21 hours ago
      Police were shouting contradictory instructions at her, including to move her car. Her car had hardly starting to move when the cop walked around the front of the car and leaned in the window to shoot her in the face. Her corpse’s foot was on the gas, so the car then accelerated, crashing further down the road. That cop looks like a murderer to me from the footage. Hopefully, he will face accountability in a fair trial.
      • akimbostrawman21 hours ago
        That is not what happend. You can clearly see by the movement of the wheels that she had full control and already moved very close to the cop before he opened fire. The response to multiple cops shouting at you and surrounding you and trying to open your door is also not flooring it regardless if there is somebody in front of you.

        We have once again a "don't believe your lying eyes" case

        • directevolve16 hours ago
          You can now see a very clear picture of exactly where that cop was standing with respect to the car as he drew his gun on the front page of the New York Times. He was not in the path of the car. And there was no reason for him to walk up and shoot her. The safe thing to do in that situation would have been to let her drive off. If they had wanted to arrest her, they could have used her license plate to find her later.
        • consz21 hours ago
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          • akimbostrawman21 hours ago
            Its not 2018 anymore. Like I said lying eyes ain't working anymore.
            • consz21 hours ago
              You don't even want to engage with the question and prefer to keep up the charade. Just feels like a waste of time and effort on your part.
    • fzeroracer16 hours ago
      > refuses to go out of the way to stop blocking the road

      This is false. In the video LEFT-full-duration-WARNING-GRAPHIC.webm [1] you can see she is making an effort to move out of the way, but is being careful as to not hit other folks around her and even waves other ICE officers to drive around her while she waits her turn.

      >refuses to get out of the car

      From 0:03 onwards, one ICE agent told her to move and the other told her to get out of the car. This is after they walk up to her and start hassling her.

      > suddendly accelerates her 6000 pounds car

      This is also false. She wasn't accelerating at full speed, nor was the cop right in front of the car.

      Why are you lying? What is your goal?

      [1] https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Gb_IkGVK7WvsTAXfMvQU...

    • ViewTrick100218 hours ago
      Sickening to see someone trying to justify the extra-judicial killing of a citizen.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQCvNExBDjE

    • fat-soyboy21 hours ago
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  • german_dong20 hours ago
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