42 pointsby amichaila day ago5 comments
  • Frierena day ago
    > Our study identified altered signal intensity, abnormal tissue microstructure, and imbalanced neurochemicals in long COVID and COVID-19 recovered healthy controls.

    So, it seems that it has long lasting effects on everybody. The main difference is how severe are that effects.

    > Structural MRI studies have also identified alterations in brain morphology among COVID-RHC, including reductions in grey matter volume, thickness and global brain volume when compared with healthy controls

    That is scary.

    > Furthermore, long-term follow-up studies are crucial to determine whether the identified brain changes are progressive, stable or dynamic over time.

    This is interesting, thou. Is it permanent, it gets worse or better? That makes a big difference and it may also justify further studies and actions.

    • krackersa day ago
      >Importantly, cognitive impairments are not limited to those with ongoing systemic symptoms; they are also evident in COVID-19 recovered individuals (COVID-RHC) who no longer report active symptoms, compared to healthy controls without SARS-CoV-2 infection (Non-COVID-HC) (Hampshire et al., 2021)

      The finding was done in 2021, it's not clear to me if it's an issue years out or it's just a manifestation of post-viral syndrome. Also today there are unlikely to be any people who haven't been infected by sars-cov2

      • fractallytea day ago
        > Also today there are unlikely to be any people who haven't been infected by sars-cov2

        We do exist... ;-)

        • swed42019 hours ago
          Yep. Anybody who wears a well-fitting N95 wherever they go is in a rather safe place.

          Breakthrough infections are still technically possible, but quite unlikely.

        • throwaway290a day ago
          Most covid19 infections are asymptomatic so unless you treat every day you can't know;)
          • AstralStorm20 hours ago
            Well, even the antibody titre isn't foolproof (some people do not react or have their immune system later wiped). However having no antibody titre is pretty good sign you never had it. Not sure if there's a portable cheap blood test for it yet. Should be one, like for the active disease.
            • throwaway29012 hours ago
              I heard antibodies are not permanent? not sure
    • swed42019 hours ago
      > Is it permanent, it gets worse or better? That makes a big difference and it may also justify further studies and actions.

      Some symptoms of long COVID do lessen over time. The problem is that anybody who doesn't take adequate preventative measures (vast majority) are constantly re-infecting themselves every 6-12 months, so their body never has a chance to recover.

      Even vaccinated individuals are not safe. The only real protection is regular use of a well fitting N95 in public spaces, and making sure everyone in your household does the same.

    • DustinEchoes16 hours ago
      Brain matter losses don’t usually get better.
  • rippeltippela day ago
    The article doesn't say what those lasting marks are, nor their possible effects. Does anyone have any details on that?
    • napkinartista day ago
      • vizziera day ago
        Still fairly non specific, as science probably should be (the question was if there visible MRI detectable changes, not what specific downstream changes were apparent)

        Interesting that if we can detect some of these changes with covid what other viruses might be doing to us up there.

        • euroderf21 hours ago
          This sounds a bit like the opening scene of something science fiction-ey dreadful. Like, even Pluribus.
  • readthenotes116 hours ago
    Similar changes from taking the vaccine?
  • stdclassa day ago
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  • kazinatora day ago
    > The NCNED brings together a critical mass of talented researchers and clinicians committed to improving the lives of the patients.

    Of course, improving the lives of patients for $$$!

    First you have to convince people that they have a problem, and their insurers that it's covered.

    It's the perfect disease. Scare people into suspecting they have it. All the hypochondriacs will believe it. It's difficult to measure and impossible to confirm recovery; you can milk that cow to kingdom come.