9 pointsby SilverElfin2 days ago3 comments
  • ggm2 days ago
    Is this a new kind of "extraordinary rendition" compared to times past? Usually, it would be the CIA rather than the FBI, and it would be with the cooperation of at least some armed force of the economy from which a person is taken.

    Or, are there other "precedents" for this operation apart from Noriega?

    I believe the action(s) in Panama and Graneda were different, but I am unsure I can say why exactly. Maybe this action is actually .. not novel?

    Please note, I am not discussing it's legality, morality, only if it's actually novel in some way.

  • akagusua day ago
    Trump gave us a hint: Colombia.
  • SilverElfin2 days ago
    > Trump also promised US oil companies would move into the country and warned the US would stage a second attack if needed.

    > He also said the US would sell oil to other countries.

    > Venezuela's government described the attack as an attempt to seize "Venezuela's strategic resources, particularly its oil and minerals" in an attempt to "forcibly break the political independence of the nation".

    Wait did Trump just admit that the US has effectively enslaved Venezuela as a resource colony? I find this threat to attack them again for oil to be completely immoral. But what happened to the stopping drugs narrative? Even that changed from stopping fentanyl to stopping cocaine. Just two weeks ago Rubio and Hegseth lied to Congress when they said their involvement in Venezuela wasn’t about regime change. And that also changed? What consequences should these people face?

    • SonOfKyuss2 days ago
      When you have a cult following and control of all three branches of government, you can pretty much do and say whatever you want with little consequence.
      • polkint2 days ago
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        • SilverElfin2 days ago
          I wouldn’t phrase it like that but I do wonder if democrats will moderate a bit in response. It would be so easy for them to win in the midterms. But it’s not. Lear if they’ll disavow DEI or defund the police or open borders.
    • polkint2 days ago
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      • SilverElfin2 days ago
        I don’t. But Venezuela has the right to do what it wants with its country’s resources. America has to abide by Venezuela’s laws and accept these outcomes. It can’t forcefully corrupt another nation’s politics and steal its wealth. Otherwise it is the same as Russia and China.

        And this is very damaging to America itself. No country will trust us from now on.

        • polkint2 days ago
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          • bigyabai2 days ago
            > When a smaller nation's actions threaten the stability of a larger nation the smaller nation loses.

            Pray tell, where did you learn that from?

            • polkint2 days ago
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              • bigyabai2 days ago
                History does not support your claim, particularly recent history.