34 pointsby croemer3 days ago6 comments
  • amadeuspagel3 days ago
    > Germany has been on high alert for sabotage activities directed at its infrastructure, including from foreign actors such as Russia.

    This sentence kind of implies that foreign actors committed the attack, but a leftist group took credit for it[1].

    [1]: https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2026/01/berlin-suedwes...

    • UltraSane3 days ago
      This is exactly how Russia operates inside Europe.
    • throw202512203 days ago
      A leftist group cannot be sponsored by Russia?
      • Steven4203 days ago
        How much sponsorship does it take to commit arson?
        • throw202512203 days ago
          Who cares? The amount is irrelevant.
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      • immibis3 days ago
        Why would they be? Russia doesn't tend to fund leftist groups. If they're actually a leftist group, it's far more likely to be about Palestine and of their own accord, or because of direct government oppression against them.

        Last time I knew of an attack like this in Berlin, it was a direct retaliation after the government attacked their house with military tanks.

        • jalapenos2 days ago
          I would be especially concerned if the government attacked with non-military tanks.

          The government dropping a water tank on your house certainly would be concerning.

        • Rakshith3 days ago
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  • throw202512203 days ago
    20 years in prison for everyone responsible should quickly sort this out. This is sabotage regardless of the motive.
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    • jojomodding2 days ago
      20 years in prison is what you get for murder and even then only when you also fail your first parole hearing.

      Which is a good thing. Few people deserve that long in prison.

      • csomar2 days ago
        If 20 people die because of the freezing weather, would life be justifiable then?
      • tim-tday2 days ago
        Pretty sure arson carries a hefty prison term. And terrorism.
      • throw202512202 days ago
        Yeah yeah. And for printing your own dollars.
    • mindslight3 days ago
      How will 20 year prison sentences get the power back on ("sort this out") ? Do you think 20n man-years of prisoner labor can install a new cable in the blink of an eye? Will the prisoners be forced to build a time machine so someone can go back and thwart their plans? Or how else do you envision this happening?
      • throw202512202 days ago
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        • mindslight2 days ago
          You're the one who asserted it would "quickly sort this out".

          If you want to switch to talking about how to prevent similar events from occurring, surely you can imagine types of actors that even the possibility of 20 year prison sentences would not dissuade.

    • johannesberlin2 days ago
      sure let’s waste more millions on incarcerating people
    • immibis3 days ago
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      • throw202512203 days ago
        There’s breaking the law and this.
        • nerdsniper2 days ago
          What is “this”, if not breaking the law?

          Actually no. Engaging with snarky drivel is the wrong way to go about this. Downvote, flag for snark, and move on.

  • croemer3 days ago
    Single point of failure and 45k people are without power for multiple days.
    • toast03 days ago
      Very few electric customers are served by more than one substation, that substation and the distribution wiring between the substation and the customer are going to be a SPOF, except for the few customers with access to multiple substations.

      Some substations don't have redundant feeder power either, although that's more often the case where geography makes it difficult (islands/peninsulas)... But the mention of wiring on a bridge might be an indication that is a geographically difficult area of Berlin?

    • csomar2 days ago
      Most infrastructure is fragile and is one step away from going down. It basically can’t operate without the assumption that people won’t mess it up.
      • 17186274402 days ago
        This. Infrastructure as does the whole society, relies on trust.
  • darubedarob3 days ago
    Ideology driven dark ages, one has to embrace these fits of madness burning itself out.
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