9 pointsby toomuchtodo3 days ago1 comment
  • toomuchtodo3 days ago
    https://baptistcourier.com/2025/01/five-reasons-why-2025-wil... (“About 15,000 churches will close. Many of these churches held on tenaciously, but the number of congregations facing imminent closure has grown. For the first time in modern church history, 15,000 of the churches will cease to exist in a period of one year. Notice that we are projecting that 15,000 churches will close and that 15,000 will move from full-time pastors to part-time pastors. Those 30,000 churches represent about 1 out of 12 existing churches. The change is dramatic.”)

    https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2024/08/13/tsunami-church-c... (“The vice president of research and planning of the National Council of Churches estimates that 100,000 U.S. churches will be closed over the next several years – an estimated one-quarter of those in operation.”)

    https://apnews.com/article/baltimore-archdiocese-cutting-par... (“Baltimore’s Catholic archdiocese, the nation’s oldest, will cut the number of parishes in the city and nearby suburbs by about two-thirds as part of a realignment plan responding to falling attendance and aging infrastructure.”)

    • turtleyacht3 days ago
      "Christianity is always a generation away from disappearing."

      - Ed Young

      Or something like that.

      An alternative interpretation is megachurches are aggregating memberships. Any data on that?

      • toomuchtodo3 days ago
        Definitely soaking up some folks, but something to note is these megachurches are mostly non denominational, an average congregation size of 3500, and remain third spaces for people who are not as rigidly religious. They are “religious light” seeking community (imho, based on everything I’ve read on the topic, I am happy to be corrected). They mostly cater to young families with children, who are also on the decline in the US (~18% of US households, 25.4% if you include single parent households). Extrapolate out from US TFR (total fertility rate) of 1.6 (and declining).

        Admittedly, it’s hard to predict far into the future what this looks like as the US population shrinks over the next several decades.

        Megachurches are getting even bigger as churches close across the country - https://www.npr.org/2023/07/14/1187460517/megachurches-growi... - July 14th, 2023

        Megachurch Geography: Why America's Largest Churches Thrive Where They Do - https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/megachurch-geography-w... - May 22, 2025

        Charted: How American Households Have Changed Over Time (1960-2023) - https://www.visualcapitalist.com/how-american-households-hav... - November 6th, 2024

        Gallup: Drop in U.S. Religiosity Among Largest in World https://news.gallup.com/poll/697676/drop-religiosity-among-l... - November 13th, 2025 (“The steady decline in U.S. religiosity over the past decade has been evident for years. Fewer Americans identify with a religion, church attendance and membership are declining, and religion holds a less important role in people’s lives than it once did. But this analysis of World Poll data puts the decline in a wider context, showing just how large the shift has been in global terms. Since 2007, few countries have measured larger declines in religiosity. This means the U.S. lags further behind the global median for religiosity and is drawing closer to the median for other advanced economies. The U.S. increasingly stands as an outlier: less religious than much of the world, but still more devout than most of its economic peers.”)

        • b3ing3 days ago
          They are places of socialization, entertainment, make people feel good and get a message of wealth from the USA’s modern belief that God is cosmic Santa Claus. They are not places of worship and are not serious on the word or spirit, they carefully select a few things to talk about if they even reference the bible at all.