57 pointsby brepppa month ago11 comments
  • chvida month ago
    End of the rules based international order. I bet none of the European leaders will speak out against this.
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  • pr337h4ma month ago
    Don't you need an AUMF for this, at least in theory?
    • bloppea month ago
      This is not war, it's merely a special military operation
      • yakaccount4a month ago
        It's really Venezuela's fault for trying to join NATO /s
    • dragonwritera month ago
      > Don't you need an AUMF for this, at least in theory?

      That depends on which theory, and whose narrative of the facts relevant to the theory you accept.

      For theories, there are three important ones to consider:

      (1) The War Powers Act is Constitutional and its terms govern Presidential use of force without a separate Congressional authorization, (2) The War Powers Act is an unconstitutional limit on the President's inherent authority and the President's powers to prosecute war abroad, without a Congressional declaration, are broader than the War Powers Act would suggest, and (3) The War Powers Act is an unconstitutional delegation of reserved Congressional powers to the Executive, and has no effect, leaving the President's powers to prosecute war abroad without a Congressional authorization narrower than the War Powers Act would suggest.

      As to relevant factual narratives, there are at least two salient alternatives: (1) The Government of Venezuela, through the vehicle of the Tren de Agua gang which, in fact, is an instrumentality of the state, has conducted and is conducting, since sometime before March 14, 2025, an invasion of the United States as described in President Trump’s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act, and therefore the US is, and has been for some time, engaged in a defensive war against that attack by Venezuela, (2) The invasion described in #1 is a fantasy, has not occurred, and the US is not engaged in a defensive war against a Venezuelan invasion.

    • mullingitovera month ago
      I mean, sure, it’s probably a crime, but the Supreme Court has already established that the President can do crimes with total impunity.
  • m4r1ka month ago
    The Peace President Strikes Again.
  • andrewinardeera month ago
    Will cocaine and oil prices increase because of this?
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  • behnamoha month ago
    the same CNN is sleeping on the Iran developments, such a shame
    • ManuelKiesslinga month ago
      Can you explain what you mean by that? As of this writing, there is a „Iran protests“ block on cnn.com on position #2 or #3 depending on how you count, well within the first 20% of the scroll-like homepage.
    • raffraffraffa month ago
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      • petefordea month ago
        Can you give some background context for someone reading this and genuinely not knowing what you're referring to?
        • raffraffraffa month ago
          Ok very simple, left wing media lie by omission and push agenda via slanted headlines and opinions, as much as the right do. As a traditionally left wing person I did not know the extent of this. I no longer exclusively read left wing news.

          The left, in 2025, have a dreadful fear of seeming Islamophobic, and this is evident in their handling of this current situation and of the unrest in 2022 when a woman died in police custody, arrested for the crime of not wearing specific headwear. BBC headline commented on how the economic situation created the perfect conditions for unrest. How about oppression creating the perfect conditions for unrest? No, we're not allowed to comment on Iran's culture/religion, only their economy.

          • petefordea month ago
            You absolutely should consume a mixture of news from a variety of reputable sources, mindful of their biases and your own.

            I don't love CNN but comparing them to right wing news is pure false equivalency, however.

  • sccxya month ago
    Disgusting aggression from the US.

    Trump is copying his friend Putin too much.

  • monero-xmra month ago
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  • spencerflema month ago
    I know Hackernews is pretty MAGA and that’s never going to change.

    But for everyone else: it’s crazy to me they didn’t even bother making up a justification for this war. Completely evil. We cannot let the institutions that enabled this continue.

    • petefordea month ago
      I don't think that HN leans MAGA, even by a long-shot.

      There's lots of folks here that I often disagree with, but even the conservative-leaning tend to be far more willing to at least debate than you'll find on most places on the web.

      Honestly, if you truly perceive a MAGA vibe on here, I would stop to question your own notions of what qualifies as moderate.

      • spencerflema month ago
        If you have a “moderate” opinion on this war, I don’t know what to tell you
        • petefordea month ago
          I didn't express anything of the sort that you're implying, and you don't seem interested in replying to what I said.

          If I'm completely honest, I'm not even sure which war you're specifically referring to; I assure you that I'm against all of them.

          • spencerflema month ago
            Every top comment on this thread supports the invasion or hemms and haws at best: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46473348

            Sorry for assuming you supported the war [in Venezuela] but I’ve yet to see a moderate that’s anything other than a MAGA whos embarrassed by the asthetic.

            • petefordea month ago
              Yeah. I'm a life-long Canadian leftist. I think everyone involved in the Trump cabinet should be tried for war crimes.

              I also simply do not see even tepid support for this attack in the top comments, to the degree that I seriously wonder if we're looking at the same comments.

              I do not want to put words in your mouth, but it really seems as though you're ignoring the fact that multiple things can be true at the same time; Maduro is a sack of shit, the US is demonstrating that they have no interest in the post-WW2 order, and many Venezuelans might be quietly or openly thrilled that he's gone.

              But seriously: this is HN. It's a place where people hope to have intelligent conversations and polite debate. I'm not sure what you actually expect people to say which would satisfy your need to see sufficient outrage.

              Absolutely nothing about that makes this place slant MAGA. This discussion between us simply wouldn't happen if this place slanted MAGA.

        • allanmacgregora month ago
          You are stuck on "If is not my brand of liberal, then they are MAGA and worse than Hitler" there is nuance in political opinions; people can be conservative and condemn and disagree with this war/administration/president.

          Western society is turning into this tribalistic bullshit, is very visible in ithe US but to my suprise is now also in full force in Canada.

    • unethical_bana month ago
      I don't think HN leans MAGA. However, I think there are a nonzero number of people on this site which hold MAGA views, which can feel like too many for a site that respects facts and intellectual richness.

      As a liberal in a blue gerrymandered district within a red state, I literally can only hope that the pain and destruction and illegal behaviors of this administration impact my friends who voted for Trump, so that their lack of empathy/attention to world events gets adjusted enough to sit out 2026/2028 or ideally to vote otherwise. - edit to be clear: Damage is being done to all of us; my point is not malice or Schaudenfreude but hope that something can open his supporters' eyes.

      The sheer amount of illegal and quid-pro-quo behavior from the president and the justice department can only be described as a coup against our own Constitution and legislature.

      • spencerflema month ago
        Ngl I have a bit of malice towards em
    • eviksa month ago
      But they did, the whole drug nonsense was that justification
    • fofoza month ago
      Oil, as usual.
    • redwooda month ago
      Have you ever spoken to Venezuelan about it?
      • bsdera month ago
        Yes. And they are pretty uniform in believing that the addition of the US military will in no way improve their situation.