25 pointsby Tomte14 hours ago12 comments
  • shaky-carrousel13 hours ago
    PostNord AB is a private company and has been for some years, so the idea that this is a government service being withdrawn is untrue.

    Danish law requires everyone to have access to postal services for letters. Therefore another private company, DAO, will provide postal delivery to everyone in Denmark and the ability for everyone in Denmark to send letters from DAO service points (in shops, etc).

    A significant subsidy is being provided to DAO to enable a universal delivery service.

    DAO will be the national postal service for international treaty (UPU) purposes, enabling letter and small parcel post between Denmark and other countries according to UPU agreements.

    • cinntaile12 hours ago
      It's legally structured as a private company, but it's really not. It's 60% owned by the Swedish state and 40% by the Danish state.
      • shaky-carrousel6 hours ago
        Right. Then the accurate description is that it's a state-owned commercial company, not a government agency.

        Ownership by states doesn't make it a public service. It makes it a company whose shareholders happen to be governments. It still operates under corporate law, not administrative law, and it was explicitly removed from being a state service.

        Calling that "not really private" is just rhetorical framing, not a legal or operational distinction.

        • cinntaile2 hours ago
          It's not privately owned so it's not really a private company even if it has to abide by the same laws. I don't get why you accuse me of rhetorical framing, it's what the ownership situation looks like.
          • shaky-carrousel2 hours ago
            Fair enough; we're using different definitions of "private."

            I'm using it in the legal/operational sense relevant to whether a government service was withdrawn (agency vs company, public law vs company law). By that definition, it's a private company.

            You're using it in a shareholder-ownership sense. That's a valid perspective, but it's a different question than the one being discussed here.

  • cinntaile14 hours ago
    It's no longer the state-owned post office that delivers it, that's all. It's not like Denmark all of a sudden stops with physical letters...
    • bell-cot13 hours ago
      Yep. It's yet another case of "journalism" where the facts contradict the headline, and they only 'fess up in the final lines of the story:

      > Danes can still send a love letter or a Christmas card in 2026, but only through a private company.

      > They must either drop it at a shop, or pay extra to have it collected from home, which is available online or via an app.

      > By law, Danes must always be able to send a letter. If a private company stops delivering them, the government must step in with a new provider.

  • vitaelabitur14 hours ago
    I wouldn't be surprised to see all of us deeply fetishizing the analog experience in the coming years.

    Activities like letter writing might get gentrified, with private businesses charging a premium for delivery.

    • iancmceachern13 hours ago
      This is already happening with cassette tapes and Walkman (is the plural of Walkman Walkmen or Walkmans?)
      • cbluth12 hours ago
        I'd say its "Walkmany"
  • pvtmert10 hours ago
    Clarifications:

    They still can-send and receive letters but sending letters now requiring going to a shop and handing them over. Previously, you could buy a set of stamps and envelopes (possibly prepaid ones) put your letter into an envelope and drop it to a nearby postage box. (the red mailboxes article is mentioning)

    Meanwhile for the receiving end it is the same, the letters will get dropped to your mailbox. If those require signature or receipt validation, you probably need to go to a nearby postal office to collect them if you were not at home at the time of delivery.

    Only bummer is that a private company is handling all these mailing operations. Hence, prices are going to substantially increase in order to keep the profits high enough.

  • schoen14 hours ago
    Whoa, I sent a postcard to a Danish colleague last year! Does this mean I can't do that again in the future? Would this private company deliver personal correspondence originating from abroad?

    Edit: I asked an LLM, which told me that we can still send letters to Denmark from abroad, but that Danes themselves will have to go to the new private contractor to send outgoing mail (instead of using their postal service). The private contractor will apparently still do regular residential and business delivery, including for mail that originates outside of Denmark.

  • bryanrasmussen13 hours ago
    Local news in English version of article, doesn't really say anything new though: https://www.thelocal.dk/20251230/postnord-to-deliver-last-ev...

    In my experience the Danish postal service for correct delivery of letters has been subpar in relation to American postal service (of course my American experience is from decades ago).

  • TheChaplain13 hours ago
    I hope the charges are on the sending part, if I would have to sign up to receive letters I see some issues..

    And yeah, elderly and digitalization is not always working well. Where I live the average age is ~80, and people need assistance to use the laundry machine.

    The booking system for the public facilities such as laundry services is a piece of paper.

  • Larrikin13 hours ago
    How much does a private company need to pay to achieve this goal in the different countries around the world?
    • cinntaile12 hours ago
      Honestly the post office was probably very happy to get this off their hands. They have much better margins on packages.
      • Larrikin4 hours ago
        Government should provide an important service to its citizens at atleast a minimum viable level. No one is accusing Denmark of corruption in it's delivery of letters so profitability should not be a consideration.
        • cinntaile2 hours ago
          It's not clear to me what service is not being provided? Citizens still receive their mail.
  • cjbenedikt8 hours ago
    The author hasn't been to Baltimore, MD...:-p
  • ranguna12 hours ago
    Ah yes, fake news. Just because a private company is running the mail service, doesn't mean letter delivery is being discontinued. Letter delivery is subsidized by the government.
  • onetokeoverthe11 hours ago
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