24 pointsby yakattak4 hours ago9 comments
  • Alconiconan hour ago
    I assumed your post was more generic and not specific about LLMs or AI.

    Generally speaking, while the disucssions are 'better', they are not good. The comments themselves seldom add real value, discussions are not held with sources and if you start to have a discussion, the other person stops responding to your arguments.

    Its 'fun' because i think i like to discuss but i have often than not the feeling i have to explain things

    While you mentioned LLMs: I do think that simplifing what LLMs are to a statistical parrot, shows how little people on hn know about LLMs, at least the ones commenting on it and repeating this every time.

    With the crypto garbage, i had plenty of people not responding to proper arguments from my side and it feels empty.

    HN is seldom stress.

  • mr_o472 hours ago
    Overall HN is the best community I have found so far People over here are generally very helpful and always up for offering their own perspectives/advice and that's one of the reason I love HN
  • realityfactchex3 hours ago
    Overall, HN is good.

    Nowhere else really can you get that concentrated & large a place to weigh in on something and get (fairly) intelligent, (fairly) rapid, (fairly) reasonable, (fairly) fast feedback -- even if you don't agree with all of it.

    Or, if you're not weighing in and getting responses, just to read the temperature on any discussion (of interest) and see reasonable views raised and discussed.

    PG always said something like, if you want to see how silly some people are just read the bottom-ranked comments on HN.

    Well maybe HN doesn't upvote the best. But hype gonna hype. It's the best we have AFAIK.

  • rixedan hour ago
    Make "show HN" your landing page get back the hacker spirit, maybe?
  • fnoef4 hours ago
    Partly agree. Most of the stuff posted here is either politics, or as you said, Pro/Anti AI.
  • shompan hour ago
    The majority of HN participants are now, not founders themselves. Founders have to focus on signal over noise. People who are not founders focus on... whatever.
    • korsean hour ago
      >Founders have to focus on signal over noise. People who are not founders focus on... whatever.

      This perspective seems extremely close minded, almost as if suggesting those who are not 'founders' (of silicon valley startups?) are incapable of rational thought or action.

      There are many executives who have never 'founded' a VC backed company who would heartily disagree, not to mention all of the humans with other credentials who process information, make decisions and create value.

      • shomp3 minutes ago
        I just meant founders of any company, not necessarily SV ones. Sorry if it came off as very reductionistic, but I was trying to phrase things quickly and simply. If you're not looking for real life tips on how to build products and gain traction and stuff, then any topic is fair game. As online communities transform from niche-based places, to general purpose hangouts, the content can get watered down.
  • jeanlucas4 hours ago
    Times change, indeed.

    One thing a high school teacher told me and that I carry with me more and more nowadays is that you need to classify what you’re reading before you read it. Not everything is news. There’s always a mix of real information, FUD, and gossip. If you treat all of it the same, burnout is inevitable.

    You need to train yourself to scan and decide which discussions are worth going into and which aren’t.

    This applies to any kind of forum or group chat.

    If I’m happy? I see HN less as a place for joy and more as a place to know what’s going on. It’s still useful. There’s a lot of BS mixed in, and that’s just part of the deal. It’s not a defining part of my happiness or my life, almost like a newspaper.

    I just ignore the sloppy posts, be it AI or non-AI related.

  • pocketarcan hour ago
    HN goes through hype cycles, I suppose. Remember when it was all about crypto and every conversation ended with "we could use blockchain" and we were all fed up? Remember when everyone was an Elon Musk fanboy and Tesla was going to save the world? I'm sure there are more, but that's just off the top of my head.

    There's always going to be a prevailing zeitgeist, and that's always going to dominate people's focus.

    But by and large, HN is the most intelligent, thoughtful community I've encountered, with people going out of their way to be kind and thorough in their replies, discussing things maturely, disincentivizing unhelpful and low-effort behavior. Not to mention the dizzying wealth of knowledge and experience the people here have.

    Obviously it's not 100%. There are plenty of harsh people and attitudes. But there's a lot of good discussion happening here, and that's what I try to focus on. I can only hope one day to be as interesting/inspiring a member of the community as some of the people I've seen on here.

  • websiteapi4 hours ago
    no - this is why we've decided to become a hive mind