16 pointsby walterbella month ago4 comments
  • mongola month ago
    The cashlessness in Sweden has strange effects on people. I don't think I recognize the coins in my country any more. They feel as foreign as coins do when travelling abroad before you get used.

    A bigger problem may even be the dependence on US companies for payments. This was mentioned by the head of Riksbanken in an interview the past week. He mentioned Mastercard and Visa, and the Swedish payment system Swish. He did not mention that Swish requires IOS or Android.

    • lenkitea month ago
      We have already gone through this cycle in India. People feel very strange dealing with cash after using UPI for many years. In-fact, many will outright refuse.

      Good thing is we do not depend on the US of A - The Unified Payments Interface is an Indian instant payment system and protocol completely independent of US behemoths. There are special, simplified UPI apps developed for senior citizens and lots of training material to ensure differently abled folk are are able to use it.

      In the few years, UPI will also be linked with other BRICS national payment systems such as MirPay (Russia), UnionPay (China) and Pix (Brazil). A lot of other nations have expressed interest in joining. Once that is through, we will have an international peer-to-peer, payment networks completely separated from the West and not subject to big-nanny Western interference. Yay! The US can go cry in a corner when its bullying sanctions are just ignored.

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  • chewsa month ago
    This is a humanities problem, sure those of us on HN are comfortable in a cashless society. That doesn’t translate to older generations of people. Cash is a fundamental part of a developed society, we should have privacy, fungibility, and large scale acceptance.

    I hate that food shops like sweetgreen are cashless, just because the they can’t trust their tellers is not a reason to outright refuse the ability to purchase.

    • bsdera month ago
      > This is a humanities problem, sure those of us on HN are comfortable in a cashless society.

      I'm perfectly capable of operating in a cashless society, but I also absolutely do NOT want to operate in it.

      Without cash, you are operating in a "social credit" society, and those of us on HN can clearly see the problems with that.

    • SilverElfina month ago
      Agree. Cash is needed for privacy and it shouldn’t be legal for stores to refuse it. Additionally, I am not a fan of public services or businesses requiring smartphones for things - like for transit tickets or viewing restaurant menus or whatever.
    • walterbella month ago
      > food shops like sweetgreen are cashless

      Except in SF, Berkeley, NYC and other US cities that mandate cash acceptance.

      • chewsa month ago
        NYC forced cash acceptance starts in 2026…
        • walterbella month ago
          Reportedly Sweetgreen changed their policy in advance of local regulation, starting in 2019, https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/operations/sweetgre...

          > The Sweetgreen fast-casual chain is dropping its cashless-only payments policy, saying the operational benefits are outweighed by the “unintended consequence” of some consumers being unable to become customers. All 94 branches of the salad chain will resume accepting cash by the end of the year, the brand said in a blog installment posted Thursday.

          • chewsa month ago
            good to know, the first time I stepped into a sweetgreen was pre-covid and that was the last time I stepped into a sweetgreen.
  • Throaway198712a month ago
    Huh? I thought they wanted a cashless society?
    • hulitua month ago
      That was also my reaction. If they want csshless so badly, why not let them ?