1384 pointsby keepamovin2 months ago138 comments
  • jvanderbot2 months ago
    OK, so the "Storing data in the network ... " title made me remember something.

    If you transmit a message to Mars, say a rover command sequence, and the outgoing buffer is deleted on the sending side (the original code is preserved, but the transmission-encoded sequence doesn't stick around), then that data, for 20-90 minutes, exists nowhere _except_ space. It's just random-looking electrical fluctuations that are propagating through whatever is out there until it hits a conducting piece of metal millions of miles away and energizes a cap bank enough to be measured by a digital circuit and reconstructed into data.

    So, if you calculate the data rate (9600 baud, even), and set up a loopback/echo transmitter on Mars, you could store ~4 MB "in space". If you're using lasers, it's >100x as much.

    • DarmokJalad17012 months ago
      During NASA's Deep Space Optical Comms demo (https://www.nasa.gov/mission/deep-space-optical-communicatio...), they transmitted video at 267 Mbps from 16 million kilometers away. That's 1.78 GiB stored in space while in transit (assuming 53.3 seconds light-speed delay).

      The furthest they did was 8.3 Mbps at 400 million km which is around ~1.38 GiB in transit.

    • poly2it2 months ago
      Definitely one of the harder drives feasible!

      Tom 7 did something reminiscent of this if you hadn't seen already: https://youtu.be/JcJSW7Rprio.

      • pinkmuffinere2 months ago
        Love Tom7! The peculiarities of my brain's weirdness obligates me to sing his praises every time he is mentioned.
    • Sharlin2 months ago
      It's just a fancy form of delay-line memory [1].

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory

      • lxgr2 months ago
        In a universe with mass–energy equivalence, show me a storage medium that isn’t effectively a delay line :)
        • willis9362 months ago
          What about entangled qubits?
      • Aloha2 months ago
        you beat me to it - or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory in general, space is probably closer to an electrical delay line in practice.
    • HPsquared2 months ago
      You could totally do that with the mirror on the moon. (Retroreflector + optical data transmission).

      The moon is approximately (it varies) 1.3 light seconds away, i.e. a 2.6 second round trip, and optical links can have very high data rates. You could fit quite a lot of data on there! (Edit: although maybe the data rate won't be so high at these distances)

    • 2026iknewit2 months ago
      There is an archive of a lot of television transmission in space.

      archive.space

      You just need to be traveling faster than the radio waves, catch up and enjoy :)

      • RobotToaster2 months ago
        People of Earth. I AM LRRR, RULER OF THE PLANET OMICRON PERSEI 8! We will raise your planet's temperature by one million degrees a day, for five days, unless we see McNeal at 9pm tomorrow - 8 central!
        • chuckadams2 months ago
          Pretty sure just one day would do it for us. Maybe it's Omicronian metric degrees and they're really precise?
      • btown2 months ago
        With gravitational lensing, this is actually viable! Just send a signal at a gravity sink, and travel at sublight speeds to position yourself in a place where it will be redirected to eventually along a longer path, and you can intercept your own signal! You just have to be really, really lucky.
      • willis9362 months ago
        Assuming some pass through non-empty media, isn't it technically possible?
      • 2 months ago
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    • 5424582 months ago
      There's a short story by Qntm called "Valuable Humans in Transit" that I like quite a bit which hinges on this subject: https://qntm.org/transi
      • Sharlin2 months ago
        One of my favorite pieces of short fiction.
    • Scaevolus2 months ago
      You can use fiber optics as an optical delay line too! About 60KB/km at 100Gbps.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory

    • lxgr2 months ago
    • diydsp2 months ago
      My friend Joe Allen did this with the air in a room!

      https://youtu.be/a5hOmPdxw0U

    • smarnach2 months ago
      The distance from Earth to Mars is about 3 to 22 light minutes, not 20 to 90. That doesn't change anything about your point, except the capacity is lower.
    • Kim_Bruning2 months ago
      • gmfawcett2 months ago
        "Going Postal" was brilliant. GNU Terry Pratchett.
    • agumonkey2 months ago
      allegedly, this was used long ago. a teacher told us similar stories from his early career in the 80s

      made my mind tickle for quite a while

    • pkoiralap2 months ago
      So if we can somehow preserve the signal and make it go round and round, can we get long term storage out of nothing?
      • marcosdumay2 months ago
        "Nothing" is a funny name for an interplanetary communication network.
      • terminalkeys2 months ago
        Not a scientist, but I assume the signal would degrade or mutate over time due to space radiation and other radio waves.
        • lxgr2 months ago
          Electromagnetic waves have perfect/lossless superposition, so radiation can’t really degrade a signal that way.

          The big limiting factors are free space path loss and noise.

        • PartiallyTyped2 months ago
          It should be same logic we use for repeaters, so it'll be fine.
          • Sesse__2 months ago
            The logic we typically use for repeaters (EDFA, erbium-doped fiber amplifiers) for long-distance lines amplifies but does not clean noise (so across the oceans, you are very much bound by SNR). And you need one of them every 80 km or so in typical fiber.
      • lucaslazarus2 months ago
        This is possible but you'd have to deploy it right by a black hole: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_sphere
        • hidroto2 months ago
          i wonder how sensitive your equipment would need to be to read it from the back scatter off the interstellar medium.
      • idiotsecant2 months ago
        You're still storing your data in the same EM field, just in a slightly different non-inertial reference frame.
    • npongratz2 months ago
      pingfs has similar inspiration, where storage capacity scales with latency.

      https://code.kryo.se/pingfs/

      Discussed in 2015:

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9844725

    • CGMthrowaway2 months ago
      Lacks the capability of random access, which limits the practicality of it. Cool idea still
    • journal2 months ago
      Before I consumed calories over days to figure out syntax. Now, a language model exhausts those calories away in seconds. Eventually we will advance too far into the future that the tail end of humanity will forget how to make pants.
    • mapt2 months ago
      "a man is not dead while his name is still spoken"

      GNU John Dearheart

    • shevy-java2 months ago
      > If you transmit a message to Mars, say a rover command sequence

      Don't you worry!

      AI rover robots are soon going to dominate Mars.

    • charv2 months ago
      "Commenter shows off how smart they are with cool fun fact"
  • laser92 months ago
    A good Friday morning laugh! I think the tiles are not just honest, they are brutally honest. Some of my fav ones:

    - Amazon finally adds a feature that has been standard since 2005

    - Texas accidentally does something good for privacy

    Would it possible to add a feature where hovering over a title displays the original title?

  • BeaverGoose2 months ago
    "Please star my repo so I can get a job" is brutal
    • OsrsNeedsf2P2 months ago
      As someone who maintained popular open source repos for >5 years, not once did I have a recruiter care about it (I made sure to ask!)
      • Agentlien2 months ago
        I have a few blog posts which have received only about ~250 upvotes across different communities, plus a GitHub project with just 30 stars.

        Still, both of these were really interesting to my future colleagues (not the recruiter) who interviewed me in the last round of the interviews which landed me my current job. They had read them ahead of time and it really shaped the technical part of the interview.

      • Sesse__2 months ago
        I've had recruiters be “impressed by my GitHub profile”, when I didn't have a single project on my GitHub profile.
      • abhaynayar2 months ago
        maybe not the recruiter but the hiring manager or prospective colleagues who'll interview you later?

        not the number of stars, but I like looking what people have done online ie GitHub/blog. I feel like it is a nice thing to talk about.

        I know it's an unpopular opinion these days cause everyone wants work life balance and not work beyond the office but it's always nice to see projects you've worked on it does show some interest. also while one can fake GitHub activity it's hard to fake well thought out and cared for projects.

        it's easier to fake metrics from your previous jobs like I saved X amount of money for the company or had Y efficiency gains.

      • nurettin2 months ago
        I was contacted by a spanish HR agency, they said that my github contained code that they considered an outlier and would like to forward some job applications. Never heard of them since. Maybe scraping github for talent isn't good business.
      • wting2 months ago
        As a hiring manager that visited every resume Github link because of my FOSS background, >99% of them had nothing of substance (no activity, school projects, etc).
      • Svoka2 months ago
        I hired many many people and never once I cared about GitHub stars. Not even sure what signal it suppose to be.
        • minimaxir2 months ago
          It's a quick signal that the developer is capable of writing and maintaining code that can be used by many others.
          • stronglikedan2 months ago
            Or that they're just a person who knows how to game stars. As Goodfart says, "When a measure becomes a target, it gets gamed beyond usefulness."
            • minimaxir2 months ago
              Although commits can be gamed on GitHub, stars are significantly harder to game as they require human accounts to be doing so.

              You could game a few stars with sockpuppet accounts, but it's infeasible to game 100+ stars.

        • abtinf2 months ago
          Yes, developer/platform advocacy/evangelism.
    • tigerlily2 months ago
      I had to go back and look. Absolutely skewered it.
    • kgwxd2 months ago
      Is that the title it gave itself?

      Edit: Oh no, that was for the repo I actually stared before seeing this. I'm just learning Go :)

    • nmz2 months ago
      The future is now
    • ekropotin2 months ago
      I have to admit, that one hurts
    • Lockal2 months ago
      Should be: "New account spams HN with AI generated slop (emojis included), third attempt"
  • ajcp2 months ago
    -> Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster.

    I love these and I know this is all in good fun, but I feel like this one is a little unfair to Jeff. He's a content creator and he didn't actually buy the rig. If he's rich it's because he creates content like this.

    • kemayo2 months ago
      It's inaccurate on two fronts: he didn't spend the money because he loaned the hardware... and the reviewed thing was actually $40k. :D
    • zamadatix2 months ago
      Most of these are unfair in some way and many are wrong. What makes this funny is precisely that it has more snark than is reasonable (and often pushes bad assumptions as snark usually does!)
    • aeve8902 months ago
      >a little unfair to Jeff

      I don't know chief, have you seen how many rpis this guy has?

    • pdevr2 months ago
      It need not be a dichotomy. I also laughed at the title. At the same time, I found the original article useful.
      • ajcp2 months ago
        No, I agree, I just wanted to call it out.
    • abtinf2 months ago
      Jeff’s content is way too high quality to make him rich.
      • stronglikedan2 months ago
        High quality content usually makes someone rich, and that someone is usually not the creator.
    • 2 months ago
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  • rcarmo2 months ago
    Top level item for me now: "We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it"

    Love these things. Every time someone has posted an AI-flavor of HN it's been comedic gold.

  • pizzathyme2 months ago
    Yes and - it would be great to hover/tap to see the original headline.

    I found myself pulling up the original and the honest versions side by side. The translation makes it funny.

    • andix2 months ago
      Right now there is a lot of drift between real and honest version, so it's hard to find the original title.
      • AntiqueFig2 months ago
        If you click on the comments in the honest version, it'll redirect you to the real version.
        • opem2 months ago
          Still it would be great to be able to see on hover
  • bombledmonk2 months ago
    This should be the April Fools 2026 feature put directly on the live HN site.
    • strangattractor2 months ago
      The Onion for Programers
    • eastbound2 months ago
      I love asking Grok’s companions, especially “Bad Rudy”, for the news of the day. It’s pretty similar: Brutally honest, filtered news. Although recently he started editorializing with his personal opinion, which is boring (from an AI companion).
  • jedberg2 months ago
    Aka "the titles when people post these on reddit".

    Now you know why HN has the "no editorializing" rule. :)

    • sidcool2 months ago
      reddit is a whole different beast. It does not have a sense of humor, rather it is a biased cesspool of partisanship.
      • ozozozd2 months ago
        You may have thought this is an objective observation.

        For anyone over the age of 16 this comment is a loud expression of your political views.

        Also, I find Reddit to be super funny. Just yesterday someone posted a photo of their brain MRI showing a tumor the size of a tennis ball and everyone, including the OP were having a great time.

        • hn_throwaway_992 months ago
          > For anyone over the age of 16 this comment is a loud expression of your political views.

          I'm curious as to what you think those political views are, because I strongly agree with what sidcool wrote (even if they didn't mean it the way I interpreted it) and I disagree with you.

          I think that Reddit "is a biased cesspool of partisanship", but very much in both directions. Many subreddits are so wholly hard right or hard left that I think they're almost caricatures of themselves. And even for subreddits without a hard political bent, they are often the very definition of an echo chamber - they are great places to go where you want everyone to agree with you and you can see people who disagree with you get downvoted to oblivion. And, importantly, this is literally by design based on how subreddits are created and moderated.

          I have rarely (not never, but rarely) made a comment that took a somewhat nuanced opinion where I wasn't heavily downvoted. And, contrarily, I have made similar comments on HN where, if I wasn't particularly upvoted, I received what felt like fair dialogue and back-and-forth with other commenters.

          All that said, I still use Reddit frequently and find it frequently interesting, sometimes informative, and often pretty hilarious.

          • ozozozd2 months ago
            You really don’t know adherents of which political stance are constantly complaining about “lack of a sense of humor”? Or who has been complaining about the “tech bias”? I am glad if you were somehow not exposed. I don’t find it partisan. I come across a lot of criticism of Democrats. And the current administration. Also, if you’re claiming subreddits are partisan in the way mods want it to be, we can’t conclude Reddit as a whole is partisan, can we?

            Edit:

            The sibling comment offers a more concise explanation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46329213

      • scottyah2 months ago
        I sleep better at night thinking it is just a battleground of astroturfing bots fighting each other (at least on the main pages).

        Everything from massive Russian state-actor bot farms testing newly trained LLMs popping out AI-generated meme formats before deploying domestically unknowingly getting into arguments with Israeli bot farms trying to raise support for some new movie series that will enable them to raise money for their next missile strike competing for eyeballs/attention from some uni student in a dorm room paying mid-sized black market companies in India to post comments telling you that cast-iron pans are too hard to clean so you should buy the non-sticks you saw on instagram (which are just marketing dropshippers in the USA selling the QA rejected pans from established brands).

        The online world is a wild place.

        • LexiMax2 months ago
          Hacker News is Reddit with a nuclear downvote button and tone policing.

          It's not that much better in terms of "dead internet," the bots are just more eloquent. In some ways the HN flavor of gamified engagement actively encourages worse outcomes than Reddit.

      • bsimpson2 months ago
        (In case you didn't realize it, you're replying to one of the OG reddit admins.)
        • jedberg2 months ago
          Hello fellow OG :)
          • bsimpson2 months ago
            I joined from the Webmonkey sidebar in like 2008.

            Lived in San Francisco for a while. Liked seeing you pop up in that sub, even after you retired.

      • TeMPOraL2 months ago
        "When we do it, it's called sense of humor. When they do it, it's bias and partisanship."
  • alabhyajindal2 months ago
    > OpenAI releases a new model to distract from their board drama

    This one shows the "age" of the LLM, or the data cut off time

    • sallveburrpi2 months ago
      Implying there is no drama in OpenAIs board at the moment - they just stopped doing it in public for the time being
  • ctippett2 months ago
    I got a good chuckle out of some of the titles. In Jeff Geerling's defence (the title on the site reads "Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster"), he was loaned the Mac Studios from Apple and so he didn't spend a dime.

    Also his accompanying YouTube video mentions the kit retails for $40,000+, a far cry from $15k.

    • taikahessu2 months ago
      Yeah, and it could be more like satire of "developer spends 15k to run a basic lying chatbot" or something like that :)

      Plus some of the stories seem to be a bit old like openai board controversy remark.

      All in all, some funny stuff i agree!

  • headgasket2 months ago
    Love this. can we get an honest title for this entry too? (I'm not quite happy with my 11l+ karma, please give me some upvotes so I can start the new year with a smile?) jk, great one, cheers
    • 2 months ago
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  • pvsukale32 months ago
    "Rails developers reinventing state machines for the 50th time"

    Laughed so hard on this one.

    • diydsp2 months ago
      Its not even just Rails ppl. In embedded ive seen so many consultants say things like, "no problem. I just started working on the ultimate, perfect way to set up a state machine." Confidence theater
    • mtkd2 months ago
      You can still look at almost any codebase and ask 'why is this bit not using a state machine here?' ... the AASM repo readme is very accessible even if you don't know Ruby: https://github.com/aasm/aasm
  • antfarm2 months ago
    Someone built a tool to put all the snark and harsh arrogance from the comments directly into the titles?
    • 654wak6542 months ago
      That's it, AI has finally made HN obsolete!
  • PaulHoule2 months ago
    How did you get an LLM to be snarky or did you do something else?
    • doomspork2 months ago
      You can prompt it to do so. Look you "Persona based prompting" as a great and fun example of controlling what the LLM spits out and its tone.
    • smokel2 months ago
      Let's try to get a story on little Bobby Tables on the front page and find out.
    • pizzathyme2 months ago
      Same question and great work. I would love to know the prompt details of how the hacker news truth was captured
      • nottorp2 months ago
        Yes, this is absolutely brilliant! Teach us the prompt, o great wizards!
        • PaulHoule2 months ago
          To answer my question myself I gave Microsoft copilot this prompt:

              I want you to rewrite this headline "Amazon will allow ePub and PDF downloads for DRM-free eBooks" 
              into something a little humorous and snarky that reveals the underlying truth that would bring a 
              wry smile to tech-engaged but big tech-skeptical hacker news readers.
              
              This has to fit in the 80 character limit for Hacker News so keep it appropriately short.
                
              Also I want you to reply with exactly one headline and not anything else so I can use your output 
              as part of a processing pipeline
          
          and i get the response

              Amazon Finally Remembers eBooks Aren’t Supposed to Be Prisoners
          
          which I think is great. I started with the first paragraph and got something too long with some explanation. I added the second, and got three replies and more explanation. The three replies were all "good enough" in my mind but added the third paragraph to control the output.
          • nottorp2 months ago
            I prompted Gemini to tell me how to prompt itself to get similar results on other news sites and it said I should give it a description of the intended audience and what it finds funny/snarky.

            Which looks like what you did.

            • bkanuka2 months ago
              Now go deeper! Prompt Gemini to write a prompt for itself that would write a prompt for itself that would get similar results.
              • bigprof2 months ago
                Inception 2.0
                • nottorp2 months ago
                  Can I do it in an infinite loop and bring all the data centers down?
    • minimaxir2 months ago
      Modern LLMs are now actually good at having a sense of humor.
  • Ldorigo2 months ago
    What's funny/interesting from a psychological perspective is that several of these made me click (and discover genuinely interesting content) on links that I ignored in the real version. Could you do this everyday please?
  • tome2 months ago
    This is hilarious and I'm looking forward to seeing what it says about itself.
  • weisk2 months ago
    "Do you confirm you are above 18 years of age (or the planet-rotation equivalent in your local star cluster)?"

    i am so confused, whats the reason behind this little event handler?

    • arcfour2 months ago
      It is a joke about how stupid and pointless pushes to require "age verification" online are. Such efforts have been in the news a lot recently.
      • keepamovin2 months ago
        You understood it! I’m so proud of you. Actually I think you’re kind of special because the reference requires stitching together some desperate signals. I think you’re pretty creative.
    • ctrlmeta2 months ago
      The website has been made by AI. May be it has learned from its training that this kind of confirm box is cheeky humor for humans?
    • smcin2 months ago
      Probably because a few articles contain curse words (which corporate filters may hiccup on).
  • Almondsetat2 months ago
    I find these kind of posts profoundly uninteresting (woah, the n-th parody of the HN front page...) and yet they seem to always garner so many upvotes...
  • daft_pink2 months ago
    It would be a really interesting feature to have ai analyze the articles and write an actually honest sub-headline. (ie not these sarcastic humor titles)
    • peesem2 months ago
      if your immediate thought is "how can ai be added to this?" i think you might be part of the joke
      • nightpool2 months ago
        These are clearly AI generated, not sure what you mean by "adding" to it.
  • publicdebates2 months ago
    "Show HN: I implemented generics in my programming language"

    does not deserve the roast

    "I built a language nobody will use just to learn generics"

    It's not fair to assume the author didn't know how to implement generics before this project. It's also not fair to assume the project won't gain traction. Zig and Rust started out small too! This just goes a little too far for my tastes.

    • forgotpwd162 months ago
      >It's not fair to assume the author didn't know how to implement generics before this project

      Yeah... what they ended up implementing is not generics. So good thing the LLM doesn't read link/comments too or will've probably wrote an actual roast.

      >It's also not fair to assume the project won't gain traction

      Very fair to assume this. Referencing Rust/Zig disregarding the thousands other now abandoned ones is survivorship bias. Most small hobby projects remain small. But, besides joking about it, "built [something] nobody will use", if is in their free time, and enjoy it, does it matter? Is there a need for all hobby projects to have a goal of making it big?

      >This just goes a little too far for my tastes.

      But the "Please star my repo so I can get a job" is fine?

    • Kwpolska2 months ago
      If you read the post, a more accurate title is "I don't know what generics are but I'm implementing a programming language anyway".
    • idiotsecant2 months ago
      still funny.
  • mapt2 months ago
    A lot of these have a disturbingly subjective critical voice.

    On a topsy turvy day, one finds oneself suspecting these are human-written instead of AI.

    • Reason0772 months ago
      I’m also suspicious that it’s human-written, or at least human selected/moderated. It doesn’t seem to be updating very frequently for one thing.

      If it’s AI, it’s very clever and nuanced: comedians should be worried for their jobs. If it’s human it’s still very funny.

  • __MatrixMan__2 months ago
    This is what adblock evolves into.
  • Aissen2 months ago
    Anyone want to try a prompt injection? All we need to do is to get one or two story in the front page that have a good < 80 characters prompt injection.
  • raluk2 months ago
    "Math nerd explains how to spend 3 days proving 1+1=2" -> Original "From Zero to QED: An informal introduction to formality with Lean 4" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46259343
  • JaggerJo2 months ago
    Should be the default!
    • clamprecht2 months ago
      I'd love it if the mouseover text would be these titles.
  • vintermann2 months ago
    I'd like to see a version of the HN frontpage, where the titles are reinterpreted by that 1913 AI. "Imagine these are newspaper headlines from the year 2025. Rewrite them so that a regular person in our time can understand them."
  • neilv2 months ago
    It's a little bit n-gate.

    Who unfortunately stopped posting HN critiques, a few years ago. But you can still read old posts on: http://n-gate.com/hackernews/2021/07/

    (If you follow that link from HN, and the site sees an HN `Referer`, it will do a fake captcha load, so then click "HACKERNEWS" in the navbar on the right.)

    • relaxing2 months ago
      Author deserves an award for coining the verb “incorrecting”.
    • spencer-p2 months ago
      I do miss n-gate. I have to assume they are much happier now that they've ended that project, though.
      • neilv2 months ago
        The last post or so sounded stressed. I hope they feel better.

        But in general, going to read a little n-gate was a relief when some HN comment thread went off the rails. Someone else could rant about the dumbness, and a burden was lifted.

  • mdni0072 months ago
    I have to say, all of these titles are much more interesting than the real ones
    • teach2 months ago
      Clickbait WORKS.

      There's a reason it's banned in HN submissions

  • voodooEntity2 months ago
    11/10 would read. So much clickbait going around (and lets ignore the articles that "magicly" are upvoted but strangewise have no comments whatsoever.... not sus at all....
  • dangoodmanUT2 months ago
    They don’t all seem super accurate, but I like these titles better
  • absoluteunit12 months ago
    “We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it”

    I spit out my coffee laughing lol

    • keepamovin2 months ago
      This was the intended effect!
  • junon2 months ago
    Seconding a little, perhaps dim button to toggle the original. But I love this. So much so that I might start referring to it more than HN when I'm in a rush.
  • greenwallnorway2 months ago
    Projects about hn on hn get a lot of attention here. I've sure done it before.

    They're a lot of fun! And super easy to vibe code, if I'm looking to test a new model.

    • freedomben2 months ago
      Definitely fun, although after recently submitting one (a simple browse extension to make HN Christmas colors last all Christmas season instead of on Christmas Day)[1] that got very little attention I started looking at other posts and found a whole lot more slip through the cracks than I would have thought.

      [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46266496

  • imiric2 months ago
    Love this.

    My favorite is the link in the footer:

      <a href="https://www.ycombinator.com/apply/">Sell 7% for clout</a>
  • simonebrunozzi2 months ago
    Love this. Make it into a chrome or Firefox extension, let people freely switch from "normal" to "honest" any time they want.
  • stuartjohnson122 months ago
    > Marketing blog post explaining why you should buy our product (hatchet.run)

    When you developer market hard enough that you make it into the LLM training data.

    • cyrusradfar2 months ago
      I'm expecting someone to build the chrome plugin shortly.
  • QuiCasseRien2 months ago
    > Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster (jeffgeerling.com)

    The title are so funny ! I'm thinking to switch for the time ^^

    • gowld2 months ago
      Inaccurate.

      > Apple gave me access to this Mac Studio cluster to test RDMA over Thunderbolt,

      Better:

      "Engfluencer suggests you spend $15k to run a model slightly faster (jeffgeerling.com)"

  • justinhj2 months ago
    Not sure if the source code for this is available but if you want to make your own version I did something similar that can be easily modified and run locally for your own festive mirth: https://github.com/justinhj/rudehackernews
  • kitd2 months ago
    I assume the age verification check when I went to page 2 is because I'm in the UK? If so, well played!
    • layer82 months ago
      I’m having this outside the UK as well.
      • abraae2 months ago
        NZ as well - though of course we are a colony
  • oncallthrow2 months ago
    I was expecting this to be stupid but it’s genuinely funny. I guess LLMs are better at humor than I remember
  • phplovesong2 months ago
    Haha! Top post was just what i could think. "A rewrite n Rust post to get upvotes".
  • gowld2 months ago
    These are fun but they lose too much of the original content.

    "Texas accidentally does something good for privacy"

    is not really an improvement over the original (already half-editorialized) "Texas is suing all of the big TV makers for spying on what you watch"

  • shevy-java2 months ago
    I am fine with the current layout, but I also have to say that I preferred old.reddit.com as a layout base (the new reddit UI is horrible, and reddit overall succumbed to willy-nilly tyranny of moderators on power-trips). I am not saying HN should change to become like old.reddit.com in the UI, mind you, but a few things could perhaps be considered. Using old.reddit.com was much more efficient to me than the default UI here. It is not the end of the world, but I would not mind small, slight, modest improvements to the UI (not only the front page, but all of HN).

    Perhaps HN could make a few suggestions and changes and people could vote. It should be as conservative as possible, though, because while I preferred old.reddit.com, I also think that not everyone may prefer changes. So one should aim for the highest acceptance value possible, before making any change.

  • safehuss2 months ago
    Very funny and brutally honest!
  • SV_BubbleTime2 months ago
    >We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it

    Good LLM prompt, excellent understanding.

    • p2detar2 months ago
      Original title: `GotaTun -- Mullvad's WireGuard Implementation in Rust`. I laughed too much at the alternative title, because it's so true.
  • ZebusJesus2 months ago
    This was a great way to start the day over a cup of coffee, sometimes we need things that make as laugh but what is awesome is the titles are spot on. Thank you for making this Friday morning fun
    • keepamovin2 months ago
      You're welcome! This is what I wanted
  • TwoNineFive2 months ago
    The word "advert" is nowhere on that page, so I know it's worthless.

    At least half of all HN content on any day is self-serving blogs and plausibly deniable adverts.

  • delichon2 months ago
    This is so damn good that I want to put it between me and the whole internet. At least selectively. Please y'all go build this.

    An opinionated, tuneable, reader-agent.

    • eastbound2 months ago
      That’s it. It singlehandedly sold the idea of an AI browser to you. Like I now want an AI radio in my car, and we’re all putting AI between Google and us because Google’s results unfiltered are bad.
    • vpShane2 months ago
      Go forth Mozilla, deshitify and enshiyify at the same time!
  • manmal2 months ago
    I‘ve channeled my inner Larry David into a prompt to make fun of y‘all

    ;)

  • krick2 months ago
    I'm not even so sure it's such a useless joke. I mean, it is, and I wouldn't want titles to be like "Academic publishers admit paywalls were a scam all along" (unless ALL major publishers actually admit it, which so far they didn't). But I clicked on "Math nerd explains how to spend 3 days proving 1+1=2" and when it turned out to be a Lean tutorial I thought "Oh, that's exactly what I wanted!". I don't know why, but "From Zero to QED: An informal introduction to formality with Lean 4" I didn't even notice. It's such a boring and verbose title with lame attempt at wordplay that, that my brain somehow filters it out.
    • keepamovin2 months ago
      The clickbait you didn't know you wanted!
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  • fogzen2 months ago
    I love everything about this – the little touches like the logo, the content warning, etc. Thank you for bringing some joy to my day.
    • keepamovin2 months ago
      You're welcome! I'm so glad you enjoyed it
  • alch-2 months ago
    Man, how did I get by for so long without this. Brilliant. I'd like to have the whole web in this tone please, thanks in advance!
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  • CGMthrowaway2 months ago
    I thought the dollar sign button would be a donation button. Turns out it's the least honest part of the entire page.
    • morkalork2 months ago
      The least honest? A dollar sign represents exactly what ycombinator is about
  • p2detar2 months ago
    Did anyone notice the footer? Brilliant.
  • l1feh4ck2 months ago
    I loved it. Could you make it more than one page. For everything in HN. I can only read 30 posts now.
  • moralestapia2 months ago
    >Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster (jeffgeerling.com)

    LOL ... and it actually ran slower.

    • hu32 months ago
      and it was 40k
  • morkalork2 months ago
    What is the title for this entry now that it's on the front page? I can't find it
  • topaz02 months ago
    Just me, or are all of these one sentence approving comments (at top level) posted by bots?
    • jordanpg2 months ago
      This weird obsequiousness and the fact that it never updates are beginning to make me wonder if this is some kind of prank.
    • idiotsecant2 months ago
      It's just you. Beep boop.
  • bityard2 months ago
    I love this so much. It's like the El Reg editors got turned loose on HN headlines.
  • horladoyin2 months ago
    Love it.
  • Imustaskforhelp2 months ago
    This is really awesome, I am interested how you made this, is there a way that we can have something this like for hackernews for more than this one instance of (20?) posts, I know its satirical but I really enjoyed it

    Considering its hosted on github I think that it is a static page

  • snapplebobapple2 months ago
    This is a massive improvement on hacker news, thank you
  • tediousgraffit12 months ago
    ok but how does it work though? Is this seriously just passing the titles to some llm with a prompt like 'roast this'? is it reading the actual content of the link as well?
    • relaxing2 months ago
      The year is 20X5. Despite the onslaught of artificially intelligent agents capable of understanding and synthesizing new concepts in written language, humans are still capable of basic cognition… for now.
  • jvolkman2 months ago
    Feature request: put the original title in a tooltip (or similar).
  • layer82 months ago
    This would actually be somewhat useful for the new page. :)
  • linuxftw2 months ago
    I motion HN adopts this to auto-translate all submitted titles.
  • alexgotoi2 months ago
    Love the “Click to keep avoiding work” - so true!
    • bombcar2 months ago
      This is the most brutal cut of all
      • WhyOhWhyQ2 months ago
        The noprocast feature should have an option to insult the user for returning here.
      • pjerem2 months ago
        Nah, look at the Y logo :)
  • daveloyall2 months ago
    Thank you for a good laugh! Very well done. :)
  • kazinator2 months ago

       s/Amazon/Atlassian/
  • 65102 months ago
    I feel cheated that it is only one page.
  • stackedinserter2 months ago
    I wish we were that brutally hones irl.
  • wnevets2 months ago
    Honest? Probably not. Funny? Very.
  • danielscrubs2 months ago
    Wow, this is amazing! Great work!
  • imchillyb2 months ago
    Twas brillig, and the slithey-news did gyre and gamble on the title. All manic were the Borogoves and gnome-rat's Anti-AI rhetoric in full recital. Beware the SLOP my son! The jaws that slurp, and claws that don't match. Beware the Amazon-nerd, and shun that Facebook Hack.

    He took his local well in hand; long time the perfect pose he sought. So prompted he by the decision tree, and waited while the AI Thought.

    Spaghetti. Meatballs. Slurp. Will I? No. Will Smith. IYKYK

  • hervic2 months ago
    Aplausos, gracias totales!!!
  • dijksterhuis2 months ago
    > CLICK TO KEEP AVOIDING WORK...

    on point

  • pimlottc2 months ago
    I miss n-gate’s webshit weekly.

    http://n-gate.com/

    EDIT: open the link manually, they put a mock "security check" on referrers from HN

  • blairanderson2 months ago
    European decel mindset.
  • isodev2 months ago
    Haha this is brilliant.
  • perching_aix2 months ago
    where "honest" really just means cynical, of course
  • jasfi2 months ago
    Please add a 2nd page.
  • matt32102 months ago
    Aka better hacker news
  • dwa35922 months ago
    This is hilarious. if you scroll down to the bottom it says, "CLICK TO KEEP AVOIDING WORK". lmao. which llm is this?
  • ihrimech2 months ago
    I laughed so hard ...
    • craftkiller2 months ago
      Me too. Audibly laughed out loud and was late to standup because I had to tell my roommate about it.
  • szemy22 months ago
    This is pretty funny!
  • amarant2 months ago
    The Texas one doesn't seem honest. It seems like a political narrative.
    • dxdm2 months ago
      I think it's a sign that you're being visited by the Ghost of Politics Present. ;)

      Rf.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_of_Christmas_Present

      • amarant2 months ago
        So.. Does that make me political Ebenezer Scrooge?

        I dunno, you'll have a hard time finding someone with less skin in that particular game than me, I'm not American and I've never even been to America (well, I switched flights in Chicago once, but I don't think it counts).

        But a lawsuit for privacy being "accidental" because it's brought by a politician that's not popular seems difficult to interpret as anything other than dogma.

        Being in the "right side of politics" doesn't automatically mean you're right about everything. And the reverse is also true.

        Take Hitler for example: founding VW was a good move! He did that one good thing. Doesn't make him a good person, but similarly, all the other shit he did doesn't make VW any less of a good deed.

        From the outside it looks like the same thing applies here.

        Since this post is now on the front page, I'll suggest an honest title for it: HN front-page but titles are snarky dogma.

        A lot of the dogmatic snark happens to be accurate, but that's besides the point. Just means it's good quality dogmatic snark.

        • dxdm2 months ago
          (Edit to add TLDR: I'm going to put some context around "Hitlers good move" of "founding Volkswagen". But first I am going to explain my original comment and apologize for scrooge-ifying you.)

          I made that quip because you reacted to a satirical, presumably generated headline by questioning the honesty of the satire and by ascribing a political motive to it.

          That's okay to do, of course, but reacting to this particular one among all the other unfairly and satirically reduced headlines, and immediately smelling political motive maybe says more about where you're coming from than it does about the particular circumstances how this headline came to be. Maybe you want to see it as political for some reason, or are at least primed to read it that way, when everything around it suggests it's just indiscriminate satire?

          So the fact that this is what popped into your head maybe wants to tell you something, like the visiting ghost. It's probably related to current politics. And then I think your comment in the face of this fun little website felt a bit scrooge-y to me, and so this admittedly silly comeback popped into my head.

          It wasn't very nice or productive of me, so please accept my apologies for hanging this old bore's name on you.

          Now that we got that out of the way, I'm going to skip past how I think you're misreading what was meant by "honest" and "accidental" in their respective places, and quickly jump into the other can of worms you opened, and wield my worm-relativizer.

          I agree that good deeds can be done by bad people, and vice versa. But I would like the record here to show that the Volkswagen was not simply "a good move by Hitler", because people might take that literally and come away thinking Hitler was the single driving force here, or that it was unrestrictedly good.

          Hitler played an important role bringing the Volkswagen about, that is correct. He did that by putting the power of the state behind efforts that had been ongoing for a while to develop a cheap, mass-produced car in Germany, and enabled engineers like Ferdinand Porsche to get it done by cajoling the car industry to put resources behind it. (More or less; the point is Hitler and nazi government were not responsible for idea nor execution, but they did push it forward because it aligned really well with their ideology, and would of course be happy to claim credit for the whole thing.)

          Now, how about "good"? Before the Volkswagen became the affordable car for the masses after the war, it did a lot of work in a modified form as part of the German war machine. Before the civilian car came to market, the nazis started the European part of world war 2, and the engineering and tooling and factory put in place for the car, it started turning out what was essentially the German version of the army Jeep, if you will pardon that comparison, supporting the German war effort and all the atrocities it enabled and tragedies it brought about.

          As a little cherry on top, I think the many folks who paid non-trivial sums to essentially pre-order the car before the war never got that car, nor did they get their money back.

          So, I don't like seeing the Volkswagen poke it's head out as "Hitler's good deed". I don't think you wanted to mislead anyone, and your point about good deeds stands regardless.

          But history is messy, and to learn from it it helps to see it in proper context, especially around this fella and his pugnacious posse.

  • Forgeties792 months ago
    This is really funny
  • imvetri2 months ago
    Thanks for sharing
  • angryjim2 months ago
    I like this a lot.
  • linhns2 months ago
    Make my day mate
  • gabrielflorit2 months ago
    This is amazing.
  • Mistletoe2 months ago
    This is actually how my brain reads most of the HN posts.
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  • robertheadley2 months ago
    I love this.
  • pickdig2 months ago
    why does the url say 2035?
  • observationist2 months ago
    Bravo.
  • marai22 months ago
    this is gold!

    “Click to keep avoiding work …”

  • anon1152 months ago
    XDDDDDD
  • toomuchtodo2 months ago
    Well done!
  • ChrisMarshallNY2 months ago
    Love it!
  • bitwize2 months ago
    (sarcastic David Spade voice) I liked this better the first time around... when it was called n-gate.

    Still pretty funny tho, ngl.

  • forgetfreeman2 months ago
    If the maintainer of n-gate.com is still alive and on Hacker News please, your work isn't finished.
  • tonyhart72 months ago
    "Training AI on 1913 data to avoid 'woke' bias (and hygiene) (github.com)"

    what could this mean???? and why 1913 specifically

  • stivatron2 months ago
    hahaha! very funny.
  • opem2 months ago
    brutal honesty
  • WesolyKubeczek2 months ago
    Cool, n-gate as a service
  • KalandaDev2 months ago
    Academic publishers admit paywalls were a scam all along :D
  • S0y2 months ago
    Now I just want to see what this post will be translated to...
  • EarlKing2 months ago
    Bring back n-gate!
  • ionwake2 months ago
    fabulous
  • reality_inspctr2 months ago
    amazing
  • i_am_a_peasant2 months ago
    Lol this legit makes it easier to grep through HN. thanks!
  • meindnoch2 months ago
    Brings back some of that n-gate vibe <3
  • tmshapland2 months ago
    lol. would you share the prompt for how you translate them? it really feels like a snarky HN community member rewrote each one.
  • Retr0id2 months ago
    Doesn't seem to be live, otherwise there'd be one that says "Hacker News front page now, but the titles are slop"
    • idiotsecant2 months ago
      Meta-Meta context: The LLM made this post.
    • thornewolf2 months ago
      maybe so, though an inaccurate claim. the ai is the value add here (and quite a value add based on the other comments in the thread). we typically reserve the word "slop" for ai generated content that is of low quality or no value add. this website seems to be both of quality and value ad and it would be difficult to argue otherwise.
    • wiseowise2 months ago
      Not everything generated is slop.
      • cwyers2 months ago
        "Slop" is at _least_ as fair a description of "we had an LLM rewrite HN headlines" as "we rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it" is of "we removed our biggest source of crashes on Android by getting rid of Go FFI issues."
  • remywang2 months ago
    Was hoping for a self aware roast: one weird trick to keep sending your LLM slop to top of HN (/s, I enjoyed it very much)
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  • SSLy2 months ago
    i miss the n-gate roundups
  • byyoung32 months ago
    The training LLMs on old data to avoid woke bias was comedic genius. Something tells me grok is behind this.
    • keepamovin2 months ago
      Actually, it was Gemini Pro 3
      • byyoung32 months ago
        Google probably just distilled grok smh
  • DarkTree2 months ago
    Now do the comments
    • erikig2 months ago
      I don't think I'm ready for this, I might never go back to "real" work.
  • mikkupikku2 months ago
    I miss n-gate.
  • akramachamarei2 months ago
    Entertaining and apparently useful, though of course not infallible. Given https://github.com/DGoettlich/history-llms it yields the title "Training AI on 1913 data to avoid 'woke' bias (and hygiene)". That the Honest Hacker News AI model has been trained on a dose of cynicism and intellectual dishonesty is probably hard to avoid...
  • _el1s72 months ago
    This is cool lol
  • queuebert2 months ago
    Missing the "We have too many file formats for X, so I made another". Could also prepopulate the comments with the ubiquitous xkcd reference.
  • NoGravitas2 months ago
    Makes me nostalgic for n-gate.
  • fruitworks2 months ago
    reminds me of n-gate
  • fukukitaru2 months ago
    I miss n-gate so much
  • wiseowise2 months ago
    Lmao, this is great.
  • frtime3452 months ago
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  • Cheer21712 months ago
    [dead]
  • barfoure2 months ago
    Yup. And if you dared to bring this up in the comments (ie. your own rewrite of a title/post), you’d get reminded of the guidelines and downvoted/flagged. Because fuck honesty - we are here for clicks and engagements.

    This is a good step. Next: disclose financial incentives and other motives just to nip it in the bud.

    • freedomben2 months ago
      well, I think OP is quite funny and I really enjoyed it, but it definitely goes against the entire idea of approaching things in good faith. I'm sure some or even many of them are sadly accurate, but if reinterpreting things people say through that lens became the behavioral norm on HN I think it would quickly destroy everything many people love about this place. Just my 2 cents of course.
      • barfoure2 months ago
        Only fools approach hyenas in good faith. You have to be naive to allow yourself to get swindled by internet marketing junkies.

        I’m all for prefacing each post that comes from a16z with “Asshole Alert” so that we know who we are dealing with upfront.

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  • casey22 months ago
    How is the Mac studio ad title honest?
  • nine_k2 months ago
    This is not "honest", this is mostly just dismissive. The headings are no more neutral and explanatory than the originals, because, I suppose, the intent was just having fun.

    "We rewrote it in snark so you have to upvote".

    • ok1234562 months ago
      Is it wrong, though?
      • SideburnsOfDoom2 months ago
        Well, this one is wrong: "I built a language nobody will use just to learn generics"

        The comments make it clear that the language author has not yet learned generics by this exercise.

      • ctrlmeta2 months ago
        Yes, it is wrong. Take the top one:

        > We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it

        I'm pretty sure they didn't go through all the trouble of rewriting it in Rust to get some internet forum points!

        • chuckadams2 months ago
          To quote Foghorn Leghorn: It's a joke, son, you're supposed to laugh.
          • ctrlmeta2 months ago
            The joke was fun the first time. When the joke posts (low effort AI slop no less!) are spammed to HN every week, it stops being fun.
            • alt2272 months ago
              Its on the front page, that means it atttracted attention and was upvoted. If what you are saying was true, these posts would die very quickly and we would never see them.

              Maybe its just you who doesnt like them?

              • unethical_ban2 months ago
                I guess if everyone thinks mocking peoples' projects and efforts is funny, it's okay!

                My opinion is a weakly that this is tiring and borderline insulting to people who are genuinely looking for feedback and community. Clever once a year or so, but the creator has leaned into it and posted a lot of meta in a small timeline.

                • alt2272 months ago
                  Then if the community agrees with you, these posts will get zero upvotes and we will never see them on the front page again.

                  If not, then you will start seeing them more and more and you will need to suck it up my friend!

              • ctrlmeta2 months ago
                > Maybe its just you who doesnt like them?

                Obviously it's just me who doesn't like them. What's your point?

                • unethical_ban2 months ago
                  They're defensive to the point of hostility. Not sure what compels that.
                • alt2272 months ago
                  I already made my point. If the community agrees with you then we wont see these on the front page anymore. If not then you will either need to be ok with seeing more of them, or not read HN.
            • lelanthran2 months ago
              > The joke was fun the first time.

              > ...

              > it stops being fun.

              Right. Sorry. We apologise. We didn't know the joke police was monitoring.

        • ok1234562 months ago
          Usually, people highlight functional/architectural changes over superficial things like language choice.
          • ctrlmeta2 months ago
            That's true. But it is also true that almost nobody rewrites a whole complex software in Rust to get internet forum points from HN people.

            Your question was "Is it wrong, though?" The answer is "Yes"

            • alt2272 months ago
              But it sure does lampoon a current point which is that people seem pretty quick to want to share their Rust rewrites of other software.
    • barfoure2 months ago
      It’s a Fark.com style applied to HN. Maybe we should do a SomethingAwful theme next?
  • lapcat2 months ago
    How much of this navel-gazing junk do we need? See also, from the same author:

    Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46205632 (10 days ago)

    Show HN: Hacker News, but every headline is hysterical clickbait https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46324579 (4 hours ago)

    • gjm112 months ago
      I feel that my life has been improved by all three of these. I hadn't seen the "hysterical clickbait" one before you pointed it out, so thank you even though clearly that was the opposite of your intent.
      • bombcar2 months ago
        It's somewhat live, as it now has

        META-MELTDOWN: WE BROKE HACKER NEWS WITH THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK (dosaygo-studio.github.io)

    • phoe-krk2 months ago
      Maybe HN needs some reflection, and satire is one of the best ways to provide it.
      • ok1234562 months ago
        There hasn't been since n-gate stopped posting.
        • bombcar2 months ago
          Comparing this with n-gate really shows the difference between AI and real work.

          Superficially, they're the same, but digging in shows the real difference.

          • ok1234562 months ago
            It's soul-crushing work, more suited for machines.
          • phantasmish2 months ago
            N-gate was by far the best thing about HN.
      • topaz02 months ago
        And slop is one of the worst ways
        • phoe-krk2 months ago
          The moment slop becomes more HN-esque than original HN content, it tells you a lot about the quality of HN posts. That is very reflective to me.
    • minimaxir2 months ago
      It's funny, the OP doesn't have an ulterior motive, and it's close to the holidays so it is not cannibalizing more important news. There's no harm here.
    • floatrock2 months ago
      I dunno, sounds like "rapid product iteration to find product-market fit" to me.
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    • ctrlmeta2 months ago
      > How much of this navel-gazing junk do we need? See also, from the same author:

      Seriously! I'll admit the first post was mighty fun. But now this is turning into an AI-spam-fest! I objected in the 2nd thread but got downvoted. Apparently the community here thinks this kind of low effort Reddit-style humor is now on-topic for this place!

      Not to mention the systematic downvoting of every comment that is critical of these spam posts!

    • catapart2 months ago
      reminds me of how people used to shove autotune into anything and people lapped it up like the slop that it was and this is. but, as with that slop, this will also get boring to the masses. there's only so much "I told an llm to pretend it was deadpool by way of ryan reynolds" that people actually like. the novelty is the brunt of it. and, like with autotune, when used well, people will continue to appreciate it. just ride out the hyperslop, for now.
    • wiseowise2 months ago
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    • greenwallnorway2 months ago
      I've done it before. Projects about hn on hn get a lot of attention.

      They're a lot of fun! And super easy to vibe code, if I'm looking to test a new model.

      It's hard to restrain myself from navel-gazing, the lint in there is fascinating.

      I'm not sure they satisfy curiosity as much as many posts with fewer votes, but that's okay.