1341 pointsby keepamovina day ago136 comments
  • jvanderbota day ago
    OK, so the "Storing data in the network ... " title made me remember something.

    If you transmit a message to Mars, say a rover command sequence, and the outgoing buffer is deleted on the sending side (the original code is preserved, but the transmission-encoded sequence doesn't stick around), then that data, for 20-90 minutes, exists nowhere _except_ space. It's just random-looking electrical fluctuations that are propagating through whatever is out there until it hits a conducting piece of metal millions of miles away and energizes a cap bank enough to be measured by a digital circuit and reconstructed into data.

    So, if you calculate the data rate (9600 baud, even), and set up a loopback/echo transmitter on Mars, you could store ~4 MB "in space". If you're using lasers, it's >100x as much.

    • During NASA's Deep Space Optical Comms demo (https://www.nasa.gov/mission/deep-space-optical-communicatio...), they transmitted video at 267 Mbps from 16 million kilometers away. That's 1.78 GiB stored in space while in transit (assuming 53.3 seconds light-speed delay).

      The furthest they did was 8.3 Mbps at 400 million km which is around ~1.38 GiB in transit.

    • poly2ita day ago
      Definitely one of the harder drives feasible!

      Tom 7 did something reminiscent of this if you hadn't seen already: https://youtu.be/JcJSW7Rprio.

      • pinkmuffinerea day ago
        Love Tom7! The peculiarities of my brain's weirdness obligates me to sing his praises every time he is mentioned.
    • Sharlina day ago
      It's just a fancy form of delay-line memory [1].

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory

      • lxgra day ago
        In a universe with mass–energy equivalence, show me a storage medium that isn’t effectively a delay line :)
        • willis936a day ago
          What about entangled qubits?
      • Alohaa day ago
        you beat me to it - or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory in general, space is probably closer to an electrical delay line in practice.
    • HPsquareda day ago
      You could totally do that with the mirror on the moon. (Retroreflector + optical data transmission).

      The moon is approximately (it varies) 1.3 light seconds away, i.e. a 2.6 second round trip, and optical links can have very high data rates. You could fit quite a lot of data on there! (Edit: although maybe the data rate won't be so high at these distances)

    • 2026iknewita day ago
      There is an archive of a lot of television transmission in space.

      archive.space

      You just need to be traveling faster than the radio waves, catch up and enjoy :)

      • RobotToastera day ago
        People of Earth. I AM LRRR, RULER OF THE PLANET OMICRON PERSEI 8! We will raise your planet's temperature by one million degrees a day, for five days, unless we see McNeal at 9pm tomorrow - 8 central!
      • btowna day ago
        With gravitational lensing, this is actually viable! Just send a signal at a gravity sink, and travel at sublight speeds to position yourself in a place where it will be redirected to eventually along a longer path, and you can intercept your own signal! You just have to be really, really lucky.
      • willis936a day ago
        Assuming some pass through non-empty media, isn't it technically possible?
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    • 542458a day ago
      There's a short story by Qntm called "Valuable Humans in Transit" that I like quite a bit which hinges on this subject: https://qntm.org/transi
      • Sharlina day ago
        One of my favorite pieces of short fiction.
    • Scaevolusa day ago
      You can use fiber optics as an optical delay line too! About 60KB/km at 100Gbps.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-line_memory

    • diydspa day ago
      My friend Joe Allen did this with the air in a room!

      https://youtu.be/a5hOmPdxw0U

    • smarnach13 hours ago
      The distance from Earth to Mars is about 3 to 22 light minutes, not 20 to 90. That doesn't change anything about your point, except the capacity is lower.
    • Kim_Bruninga day ago
      • gmfawcetta day ago
        "Going Postal" was brilliant. GNU Terry Pratchett.
    • agumonkeya day ago
      allegedly, this was used long ago. a teacher told us similar stories from his early career in the 80s

      made my mind tickle for quite a while

    • npongratza day ago
      pingfs has similar inspiration, where storage capacity scales with latency.

      https://code.kryo.se/pingfs/

      Discussed in 2015:

      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9844725

    • pkoiralapa day ago
      So if we can somehow preserve the signal and make it go round and round, can we get long term storage out of nothing?
      • marcosdumaya day ago
        "Nothing" is a funny name for an interplanetary communication network.
      • terminalkeysa day ago
        Not a scientist, but I assume the signal would degrade or mutate over time due to space radiation and other radio waves.
        • lxgra day ago
          Electromagnetic waves have perfect/lossless superposition, so radiation can’t really degrade a signal that way.

          The big limiting factors are free space path loss and noise.

        • It should be same logic we use for repeaters, so it'll be fine.
          • Sesse__a day ago
            The logic we typically use for repeaters (EDFA, erbium-doped fiber amplifiers) for long-distance lines amplifies but does not clean noise (so across the oceans, you are very much bound by SNR). And you need one of them every 80 km or so in typical fiber.
      • lucaslazarusa day ago
        This is possible but you'd have to deploy it right by a black hole: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_sphere
        • hidrotoa day ago
          i wonder how sensitive your equipment would need to be to read it from the back scatter off the interstellar medium.
      • idiotsecanta day ago
        You're still storing your data in the same EM field, just in a slightly different non-inertial reference frame.
    • CGMthrowawaya day ago
      Lacks the capability of random access, which limits the practicality of it. Cool idea still
    • mapta day ago
      "a man is not dead while his name is still spoken"

      GNU John Dearheart

    • journala day ago
      Before I consumed calories over days to figure out syntax. Now, a language model exhausts those calories away in seconds. Eventually we will advance too far into the future that the tail end of humanity will forget how to make pants.
    • shevy-javaa day ago
      > If you transmit a message to Mars, say a rover command sequence

      Don't you worry!

      AI rover robots are soon going to dominate Mars.

    • charva day ago
      "Commenter shows off how smart they are with cool fun fact"
  • laser9a day ago
    A good Friday morning laugh! I think the tiles are not just honest, they are brutally honest. Some of my fav ones:

    - Amazon finally adds a feature that has been standard since 2005

    - Texas accidentally does something good for privacy

    Would it possible to add a feature where hovering over a title displays the original title?

    • linux2647a day ago
      If you click into the comments, it takes you to the real HN comments page with the real title
      • laser9a day ago
        Yeah but I'd need to click each of them, thus the request for that feature.
        • metadata day ago
          I like how the current form is close to the real HN experience without onHover cruft.
        • fragmedea day ago
          I vibe coded the shit out of a Chrome extension that does that while waiting on CI/CD. Go read the content.js to make sure I'm not hacking your shit, download the repo to your computer, enable developer mode in chrome, "load unpacked", point it at the directory with those files, and enjoy your tool tips.

          https://github.com/fragmede/honest-hn-tooltips

          Edit: Took 18 minutes.

    • wormpilleda day ago
      I wanted that feature as well. Adds much to the lols.
  • BeaverGoosea day ago
    "Please star my repo so I can get a job" is brutal
    • OsrsNeedsf2Pa day ago
      As someone who maintained popular open source repos for >5 years, not once did I have a recruiter care about it (I made sure to ask!)
      • Agentliena day ago
        I have a few blog posts which have received only about ~250 upvotes across different communities, plus a GitHub project with just 30 stars.

        Still, both of these were really interesting to my future colleagues (not the recruiter) who interviewed me in the last round of the interviews which landed me my current job. They had read them ahead of time and it really shaped the technical part of the interview.

      • Sesse__a day ago
        I've had recruiters be “impressed by my GitHub profile”, when I didn't have a single project on my GitHub profile.
      • abhaynayara day ago
        maybe not the recruiter but the hiring manager or prospective colleagues who'll interview you later?

        not the number of stars, but I like looking what people have done online ie GitHub/blog. I feel like it is a nice thing to talk about.

        I know it's an unpopular opinion these days cause everyone wants work life balance and not work beyond the office but it's always nice to see projects you've worked on it does show some interest. also while one can fake GitHub activity it's hard to fake well thought out and cared for projects.

        it's easier to fake metrics from your previous jobs like I saved X amount of money for the company or had Y efficiency gains.

      • wting15 hours ago
        As a hiring manager that visited every resume Github link because of my FOSS background, >99% of them had nothing of substance (no activity, school projects, etc).
      • nurettin14 hours ago
        I was contacted by a spanish HR agency, they said that my github contained code that they considered an outlier and would like to forward some job applications. Never heard of them since. Maybe scraping github for talent isn't good business.
      • Svokaa day ago
        I hired many many people and never once I cared about GitHub stars. Not even sure what signal it suppose to be.
        • minimaxira day ago
          It's a quick signal that the developer is capable of writing and maintaining code that can be used by many others.
          • stronglikedana day ago
            Or that they're just a person who knows how to game stars. As Goodfart says, "When a measure becomes a target, it gets gamed beyond usefulness."
            • minimaxira day ago
              Although commits can be gamed on GitHub, stars are significantly harder to game as they require human accounts to be doing so.

              You could game a few stars with sockpuppet accounts, but it's infeasible to game 100+ stars.

        • abtinfa day ago
          Yes, developer/platform advocacy/evangelism.
    • tigerlilya day ago
      I had to go back and look. Absolutely skewered it.
    • nmza day ago
      The future is now
    • ekropotina day ago
      I have to admit, that one hurts
    • kgwxda day ago
      Is that the title it gave itself?

      Edit: Oh no, that was for the repo I actually stared before seeing this. I'm just learning Go :)

    • Lockal13 hours ago
      Should be: "New account spams HN with AI generated slop (emojis included), third attempt"
  • ajcpa day ago
    -> Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster.

    I love these and I know this is all in good fun, but I feel like this one is a little unfair to Jeff. He's a content creator and he didn't actually buy the rig. If he's rich it's because he creates content like this.

    • kemayoa day ago
      It's inaccurate on two fronts: he didn't spend the money because he loaned the hardware... and the reviewed thing was actually $40k. :D
    • zamadatixa day ago
      Most of these are unfair in some way and many are wrong. What makes this funny is precisely that it has more snark than is reasonable (and often pushes bad assumptions as snark usually does!)
    • pdevra day ago
      It need not be a dichotomy. I also laughed at the title. At the same time, I found the original article useful.
      • ajcpa day ago
        No, I agree, I just wanted to call it out.
    • abtinfa day ago
      Jeff’s content is way too high quality to make him rich.
      • stronglikedana day ago
        High quality content usually makes someone rich, and that someone is usually not the creator.
    • aeve890a day ago
      >a little unfair to Jeff

      I don't know chief, have you seen how many rpis this guy has?

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  • rcarmoa day ago
    Top level item for me now: "We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it"

    Love these things. Every time someone has posted an AI-flavor of HN it's been comedic gold.

  • pizzathymea day ago
    Yes and - it would be great to hover/tap to see the original headline.

    I found myself pulling up the original and the honest versions side by side. The translation makes it funny.

    • andixa day ago
      Right now there is a lot of drift between real and honest version, so it's hard to find the original title.
      • AntiqueFiga day ago
        If you click on the comments in the honest version, it'll redirect you to the real version.
        • opema day ago
          Still it would be great to be able to see on hover
  • bombledmonka day ago
    This should be the April Fools 2026 feature put directly on the live HN site.
    • The Onion for Programers
    • eastbounda day ago
      I love asking Grok’s companions, especially “Bad Rudy”, for the news of the day. It’s pretty similar: Brutally honest, filtered news. Although recently he started editorializing with his personal opinion, which is boring (from an AI companion).
  • jedberga day ago
    Aka "the titles when people post these on reddit".

    Now you know why HN has the "no editorializing" rule. :)

    • sidcoola day ago
      reddit is a whole different beast. It does not have a sense of humor, rather it is a biased cesspool of partisanship.
      • doganugurlua day ago
        You may have thought this is an objective observation.

        For anyone over the age of 16 this comment is a loud expression of your political views.

        Also, I find Reddit to be super funny. Just yesterday someone posted a photo of their brain MRI showing a tumor the size of a tennis ball and everyone, including the OP were having a great time.

        • hn_throwaway_9921 hours ago
          > For anyone over the age of 16 this comment is a loud expression of your political views.

          I'm curious as to what you think those political views are, because I strongly agree with what sidcool wrote (even if they didn't mean it the way I interpreted it) and I disagree with you.

          I think that Reddit "is a biased cesspool of partisanship", but very much in both directions. Many subreddits are so wholly hard right or hard left that I think they're almost caricatures of themselves. And even for subreddits without a hard political bent, they are often the very definition of an echo chamber - they are great places to go where you want everyone to agree with you and you can see people who disagree with you get downvoted to oblivion. And, importantly, this is literally by design based on how subreddits are created and moderated.

          I have rarely (not never, but rarely) made a comment that took a somewhat nuanced opinion where I wasn't heavily downvoted. And, contrarily, I have made similar comments on HN where, if I wasn't particularly upvoted, I received what felt like fair dialogue and back-and-forth with other commenters.

          All that said, I still use Reddit frequently and find it frequently interesting, sometimes informative, and often pretty hilarious.

          • doganugurlu17 hours ago
            You really don’t know adherents of which political stance are constantly complaining about “lack of a sense of humor”? Or who has been complaining about the “tech bias”? I am glad if you were somehow not exposed. I don’t find it partisan. I come across a lot of criticism of Democrats. And the current administration. Also, if you’re claiming subreddits are partisan in the way mods want it to be, we can’t conclude Reddit as a whole is partisan, can we?

            Edit:

            The sibling comment offers a more concise explanation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46329213

      • scottyaha day ago
        I sleep better at night thinking it is just a battleground of astroturfing bots fighting each other (at least on the main pages).

        Everything from massive Russian state-actor bot farms testing newly trained LLMs popping out AI-generated meme formats before deploying domestically unknowingly getting into arguments with Israeli bot farms trying to raise support for some new movie series that will enable them to raise money for their next missile strike competing for eyeballs/attention from some uni student in a dorm room paying mid-sized black market companies in India to post comments telling you that cast-iron pans are too hard to clean so you should buy the non-sticks you saw on instagram (which are just marketing dropshippers in the USA selling the QA rejected pans from established brands).

        The online world is a wild place.

        • LexiMaxa day ago
          Hacker News is Reddit with a nuclear downvote button and tone policing.

          It's not that much better in terms of "dead internet," the bots are just more eloquent. In some ways the HN flavor of gamified engagement actively encourages worse outcomes than Reddit.

      • bsimpson13 hours ago
        (In case you didn't realize it, you're replying to one of the OG reddit admins.)
        • jedberg9 minutes ago
          Hello fellow OG :)
      • TeMPOraLa day ago
        "When we do it, it's called sense of humor. When they do it, it's bias and partisanship."
  • ctippetta day ago
    I got a good chuckle out of some of the titles. In Jeff Geerling's defence (the title on the site reads "Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster"), he was loaned the Mac Studios from Apple and so he didn't spend a dime.

    Also his accompanying YouTube video mentions the kit retails for $40,000+, a far cry from $15k.

    • taikahessua day ago
      Yeah, and it could be more like satire of "developer spends 15k to run a basic lying chatbot" or something like that :)

      Plus some of the stories seem to be a bit old like openai board controversy remark.

      All in all, some funny stuff i agree!

  • alabhyajindala day ago
    > OpenAI releases a new model to distract from their board drama

    This one shows the "age" of the LLM, or the data cut off time

    • sallveburrpia day ago
      Implying there is no drama in OpenAIs board at the moment - they just stopped doing it in public for the time being
  • headgasketa day ago
    Love this. can we get an honest title for this entry too? (I'm not quite happy with my 11l+ karma, please give me some upvotes so I can start the new year with a smile?) jk, great one, cheers
    • a day ago
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  • pvsukale3a day ago
    "Rails developers reinventing state machines for the 50th time"

    Laughed so hard on this one.

    • diydspa day ago
      Its not even just Rails ppl. In embedded ive seen so many consultants say things like, "no problem. I just started working on the ultimate, perfect way to set up a state machine." Confidence theater
    • mtkda day ago
      You can still look at almost any codebase and ask 'why is this bit not using a state machine here?' ... the AASM repo readme is very accessible even if you don't know Ruby: https://github.com/aasm/aasm
  • PaulHoulea day ago
    How did you get an LLM to be snarky or did you do something else?
    • doomsporka day ago
      You can prompt it to do so. Look you "Persona based prompting" as a great and fun example of controlling what the LLM spits out and its tone.
    • smokela day ago
      Let's try to get a story on little Bobby Tables on the front page and find out.
    • pizzathymea day ago
      Same question and great work. I would love to know the prompt details of how the hacker news truth was captured
      • nottorpa day ago
        Yes, this is absolutely brilliant! Teach us the prompt, o great wizards!
        • PaulHoulea day ago
          To answer my question myself I gave Microsoft copilot this prompt:

              I want you to rewrite this headline "Amazon will allow ePub and PDF downloads for DRM-free eBooks" 
              into something a little humorous and snarky that reveals the underlying truth that would bring a 
              wry smile to tech-engaged but big tech-skeptical hacker news readers.
              
              This has to fit in the 80 character limit for Hacker News so keep it appropriately short.
                
              Also I want you to reply with exactly one headline and not anything else so I can use your output 
              as part of a processing pipeline
          
          and i get the response

              Amazon Finally Remembers eBooks Aren’t Supposed to Be Prisoners
          
          which I think is great. I started with the first paragraph and got something too long with some explanation. I added the second, and got three replies and more explanation. The three replies were all "good enough" in my mind but added the third paragraph to control the output.
          • nottorpa day ago
            I prompted Gemini to tell me how to prompt itself to get similar results on other news sites and it said I should give it a description of the intended audience and what it finds funny/snarky.

            Which looks like what you did.

            • bkanukaa day ago
              Now go deeper! Prompt Gemini to write a prompt for itself that would write a prompt for itself that would get similar results.
              • bigprof21 hours ago
                Inception 2.0
                • nottorpan hour ago
                  Can I do it in an infinite loop and bring all the data centers down?
    • minimaxira day ago
      Modern LLMs are now actually good at having a sense of humor.
  • Ldorigoa day ago
    What's funny/interesting from a psychological perspective is that several of these made me click (and discover genuinely interesting content) on links that I ignored in the real version. Could you do this everyday please?
  • antfarma day ago
    Someone built a tool to put all the snark and harsh arrogance from the comments directly into the titles?
    • 654wak654a day ago
      That's it, AI has finally made HN obsolete!
  • tomea day ago
    This is hilarious and I'm looking forward to seeing what it says about itself.
  • Almondsetata day ago
    I find these kind of posts profoundly uninteresting (woah, the n-th parody of the HN front page...) and yet they seem to always garner so many upvotes...
  • daft_pinka day ago
    It would be a really interesting feature to have ai analyze the articles and write an actually honest sub-headline. (ie not these sarcastic humor titles)
    • peesema day ago
      if your immediate thought is "how can ai be added to this?" i think you might be part of the joke
      • nightpoola day ago
        These are clearly AI generated, not sure what you mean by "adding" to it.
  • publicdebatesa day ago
    "Show HN: I implemented generics in my programming language"

    does not deserve the roast

    "I built a language nobody will use just to learn generics"

    It's not fair to assume the author didn't know how to implement generics before this project. It's also not fair to assume the project won't gain traction. Zig and Rust started out small too! This just goes a little too far for my tastes.

    • forgotpwd16a day ago
      >It's not fair to assume the author didn't know how to implement generics before this project

      Yeah... what they ended up implementing is not generics. So good thing the LLM doesn't read link/comments too or will've probably wrote an actual roast.

      >It's also not fair to assume the project won't gain traction

      Very fair to assume this. Referencing Rust/Zig disregarding the thousands other now abandoned ones is survivorship bias. Most small hobby projects remain small. But, besides joking about it, "built [something] nobody will use", if is in their free time, and enjoy it, does it matter? Is there a need for all hobby projects to have a goal of making it big?

      >This just goes a little too far for my tastes.

      But the "Please star my repo so I can get a job" is fine?

    • Kwpolskaa day ago
      If you read the post, a more accurate title is "I don't know what generics are but I'm implementing a programming language anyway".
    • idiotsecanta day ago
      still funny.
  • weiska day ago
    "Do you confirm you are above 18 years of age (or the planet-rotation equivalent in your local star cluster)?"

    i am so confused, whats the reason behind this little event handler?

    • arcfoura day ago
      It is a joke about how stupid and pointless pushes to require "age verification" online are. Such efforts have been in the news a lot recently.
      • keepamovin14 hours ago
        You understood it! I’m so proud of you. Actually I think you’re kind of special because the reference requires stitching together some desperate signals. I think you’re pretty creative.
    • ctrlmetaa day ago
      The website has been made by AI. May be it has learned from its training that this kind of confirm box is cheeky humor for humans?
    • smcina day ago
      Probably because a few articles contain curse words (which corporate filters may hiccup on).
  • Aissena day ago
    Anyone want to try a prompt injection? All we need to do is to get one or two story in the front page that have a good < 80 characters prompt injection.
  • __MatrixMan__a day ago
    This is what adblock evolves into.
  • mapta day ago
    A lot of these have a disturbingly subjective critical voice.

    On a topsy turvy day, one finds oneself suspecting these are human-written instead of AI.

    • Reason077a day ago
      I’m also suspicious that it’s human-written, or at least human selected/moderated. It doesn’t seem to be updating very frequently for one thing.

      If it’s AI, it’s very clever and nuanced: comedians should be worried for their jobs. If it’s human it’s still very funny.

  • raluka day ago
    "Math nerd explains how to spend 3 days proving 1+1=2" -> Original "From Zero to QED: An informal introduction to formality with Lean 4" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46259343
  • JaggerJoa day ago
    Should be the default!
    • clamprechta day ago
      I'd love it if the mouseover text would be these titles.
  • vintermanna day ago
    I'd like to see a version of the HN frontpage, where the titles are reinterpreted by that 1913 AI. "Imagine these are newspaper headlines from the year 2025. Rewrite them so that a regular person in our time can understand them."
  • neilva day ago
    It's a little bit n-gate.

    Who unfortunately stopped posting HN critiques, a few years ago. But you can still read old posts on: http://n-gate.com/hackernews/2021/07/

    (If you follow that link from HN, and the site sees an HN `Referer`, it will do a fake captcha load, so then click "HACKERNEWS" in the navbar on the right.)

    • relaxinga day ago
      Author deserves an award for coining the verb “incorrecting”.
    • spencer-pa day ago
      I do miss n-gate. I have to assume they are much happier now that they've ended that project, though.
      • neilva day ago
        The last post or so sounded stressed. I hope they feel better.

        But in general, going to read a little n-gate was a relief when some HN comment thread went off the rails. Someone else could rant about the dumbness, and a burden was lifted.

  • mdni007a day ago
    I have to say, all of these titles are much more interesting than the real ones
    • teacha day ago
      Clickbait WORKS.

      There's a reason it's banned in HN submissions

  • absoluteunit1a day ago
    “We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it”

    I spit out my coffee laughing lol

    • keepamovin14 hours ago
      This was the intended effect!
  • voodooEntitya day ago
    11/10 would read. So much clickbait going around (and lets ignore the articles that "magicly" are upvoted but strangewise have no comments whatsoever.... not sus at all....
  • dangoodmanUTa day ago
    They don’t all seem super accurate, but I like these titles better
  • junona day ago
    Seconding a little, perhaps dim button to toggle the original. But I love this. So much so that I might start referring to it more than HN when I'm in a rush.
  • Projects about hn on hn get a lot of attention here. I've sure done it before.

    They're a lot of fun! And super easy to vibe code, if I'm looking to test a new model.

    • freedombena day ago
      Definitely fun, although after recently submitting one (a simple browse extension to make HN Christmas colors last all Christmas season instead of on Christmas Day)[1] that got very little attention I started looking at other posts and found a whole lot more slip through the cracks than I would have thought.

      [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46266496

  • Love this. Make it into a chrome or Firefox extension, let people freely switch from "normal" to "honest" any time they want.
  • QuiCasseRiena day ago
    > Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster (jeffgeerling.com)

    The title are so funny ! I'm thinking to switch for the time ^^

    • gowlda day ago
      Inaccurate.

      > Apple gave me access to this Mac Studio cluster to test RDMA over Thunderbolt,

      Better:

      "Engfluencer suggests you spend $15k to run a model slightly faster (jeffgeerling.com)"

  • > Marketing blog post explaining why you should buy our product (hatchet.run)

    When you developer market hard enough that you make it into the LLM training data.

    • cyrusradfara day ago
      I'm expecting someone to build the chrome plugin shortly.
  • kitda day ago
    I assume the age verification check when I went to page 2 is because I'm in the UK? If so, well played!
    • layer8a day ago
      I’m having this outside the UK as well.
      • abraaea day ago
        NZ as well - though of course we are a colony
  • oncallthrowa day ago
    I was expecting this to be stupid but it’s genuinely funny. I guess LLMs are better at humor than I remember
  • phplovesonga day ago
    Haha! Top post was just what i could think. "A rewrite n Rust post to get upvotes".
  • shevy-javaa day ago
    I am fine with the current layout, but I also have to say that I preferred old.reddit.com as a layout base (the new reddit UI is horrible, and reddit overall succumbed to willy-nilly tyranny of moderators on power-trips). I am not saying HN should change to become like old.reddit.com in the UI, mind you, but a few things could perhaps be considered. Using old.reddit.com was much more efficient to me than the default UI here. It is not the end of the world, but I would not mind small, slight, modest improvements to the UI (not only the front page, but all of HN).

    Perhaps HN could make a few suggestions and changes and people could vote. It should be as conservative as possible, though, because while I preferred old.reddit.com, I also think that not everyone may prefer changes. So one should aim for the highest acceptance value possible, before making any change.

  • l1feh4ck16 hours ago
    I loved it. Could you make it more than one page. For everything in HN. I can only read 30 posts now.
  • safehussa day ago
    Very funny and brutally honest!
  • manmala day ago
    I‘ve channeled my inner Larry David into a prompt to make fun of y‘all

    ;)

  • kricka day ago
    I'm not even so sure it's such a useless joke. I mean, it is, and I wouldn't want titles to be like "Academic publishers admit paywalls were a scam all along" (unless ALL major publishers actually admit it, which so far they didn't). But I clicked on "Math nerd explains how to spend 3 days proving 1+1=2" and when it turned out to be a Lean tutorial I thought "Oh, that's exactly what I wanted!". I don't know why, but "From Zero to QED: An informal introduction to formality with Lean 4" I didn't even notice. It's such a boring and verbose title with lame attempt at wordplay that, that my brain somehow filters it out.
    • keepamovina day ago
      The clickbait you didn't know you wanted!
  • delichona day ago
    This is so damn good that I want to put it between me and the whole internet. At least selectively. Please y'all go build this.

    An opinionated, tuneable, reader-agent.

    • vpShanea day ago
      Go forth Mozilla, deshitify and enshiyify at the same time!
    • eastbounda day ago
      That’s it. It singlehandedly sold the idea of an AI browser to you. Like I now want an AI radio in my car, and we’re all putting AI between Google and us because Google’s results unfiltered are bad.
  • alch-a day ago
    Man, how did I get by for so long without this. Brilliant. I'd like to have the whole web in this tone please, thanks in advance!
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  • CGMthrowawaya day ago
    I thought the dollar sign button would be a donation button. Turns out it's the least honest part of the entire page.
    • morkalorka day ago
      The least honest? A dollar sign represents exactly what ycombinator is about
  • p2detara day ago
    Did anyone notice the footer? Brilliant.
  • bityarda day ago
    I love this so much. It's like the El Reg editors got turned loose on HN headlines.
  • topaz0a day ago
    Just me, or are all of these one sentence approving comments (at top level) posted by bots?
    • idiotsecanta day ago
      It's just you. Beep boop.
    • jordanpga day ago
      This weird obsequiousness and the fact that it never updates are beginning to make me wonder if this is some kind of prank.
  • jvolkmana day ago
    Feature request: put the original title in a tooltip (or similar).
  • horladoyina day ago
    Love it.
  • This is really awesome, I am interested how you made this, is there a way that we can have something this like for hackernews for more than this one instance of (20?) posts, I know its satirical but I really enjoyed it

    Considering its hosted on github I think that it is a static page

  • ok but how does it work though? Is this seriously just passing the titles to some llm with a prompt like 'roast this'? is it reading the actual content of the link as well?
    • relaxinga day ago
      The year is 20X5. Despite the onslaught of artificially intelligent agents capable of understanding and synthesizing new concepts in written language, humans are still capable of basic cognition… for now.
  • layer8a day ago
    This would actually be somewhat useful for the new page. :)
  • daveloyalla day ago
    Thank you for a good laugh! Very well done. :)
  • kazinatora day ago

       s/Amazon/Atlassian/
  • TwoNineFive10 hours ago
    The word "advert" is nowhere on that page, so I know it's worthless.

    At least half of all HN content on any day is self-serving blogs and plausibly deniable adverts.

  • wnevetsa day ago
    Honest? Probably not. Funny? Very.
  • danielscrubsa day ago
    Wow, this is amazing! Great work!
  • dijksterhuisa day ago
    > CLICK TO KEEP AVOIDING WORK...

    on point

  • imirica day ago
    Love this.

    My favorite is the link in the footer:

      <a href="https://www.ycombinator.com/apply/">Sell 7% for clout</a>
  • hervica day ago
    Aplausos, gracias totales!!!
  • perching_aixa day ago
    where "honest" really just means cynical, of course
  • blairandersona day ago
    European decel mindset.
  • jasfia day ago
    Please add a 2nd page.
  • isodeva day ago
    Haha this is brilliant.
  • matt3210a day ago
    Aka better hacker news
  • pimlottca day ago
    I miss n-gate’s webshit weekly.

    http://n-gate.com/

    EDIT: open the link manually, they put a mock "security check" on referrers from HN

  • amaranta day ago
    The Texas one doesn't seem honest. It seems like a political narrative.
    • dxdma day ago
      I think it's a sign that you're being visited by the Ghost of Politics Present. ;)

      Rf.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_of_Christmas_Present

      • amarant21 hours ago
        So.. Does that make me political Ebenezer Scrooge?

        I dunno, you'll have a hard time finding someone with less skin in that particular game than me, I'm not American and I've never even been to America (well, I switched flights in Chicago once, but I don't think it counts).

        But a lawsuit for privacy being "accidental" because it's brought by a politician that's not popular seems difficult to interpret as anything other than dogma.

        Being in the "right side of politics" doesn't automatically mean you're right about everything. And the reverse is also true.

        Take Hitler for example: founding VW was a good move! He did that one good thing. Doesn't make him a good person, but similarly, all the other shit he did doesn't make VW any less of a good deed.

        From the outside it looks like the same thing applies here.

        Since this post is now on the front page, I'll suggest an honest title for it: HN front-page but titles are snarky dogma.

        A lot of the dogmatic snark happens to be accurate, but that's besides the point. Just means it's good quality dogmatic snark.

        • dxdm20 hours ago
          (Edit to add TLDR: I'm going to put some context around "Hitlers good move" of "founding Volkswagen". But first I am going to explain my original comment and apologize for scrooge-ifying you.)

          I made that quip because you reacted to a satirical, presumably generated headline by questioning the honesty of the satire and by ascribing a political motive to it.

          That's okay to do, of course, but reacting to this particular one among all the other unfairly and satirically reduced headlines, and immediately smelling political motive maybe says more about where you're coming from than it does about the particular circumstances how this headline came to be. Maybe you want to see it as political for some reason, or are at least primed to read it that way, when everything around it suggests it's just indiscriminate satire?

          So the fact that this is what popped into your head maybe wants to tell you something, like the visiting ghost. It's probably related to current politics. And then I think your comment in the face of this fun little website felt a bit scrooge-y to me, and so this admittedly silly comeback popped into my head.

          It wasn't very nice or productive of me, so please accept my apologies for hanging this old bore's name on you.

          Now that we got that out of the way, I'm going to skip past how I think you're misreading what was meant by "honest" and "accidental" in their respective places, and quickly jump into the other can of worms you opened, and wield my worm-relativizer.

          I agree that good deeds can be done by bad people, and vice versa. But I would like the record here to show that the Volkswagen was not simply "a good move by Hitler", because people might take that literally and come away thinking Hitler was the single driving force here, or that it was unrestrictedly good.

          Hitler played an important role bringing the Volkswagen about, that is correct. He did that by putting the power of the state behind efforts that had been ongoing for a while to develop a cheap, mass-produced car in Germany, and enabled engineers like Ferdinand Porsche to get it done by cajoling the car industry to put resources behind it. (More or less; the point is Hitler and nazi government were not responsible for idea nor execution, but they did push it forward because it aligned really well with their ideology, and would of course be happy to claim credit for the whole thing.)

          Now, how about "good"? Before the Volkswagen became the affordable car for the masses after the war, it did a lot of work in a modified form as part of the German war machine. Before the civilian car came to market, the nazis started the European part of world war 2, and the engineering and tooling and factory put in place for the car, it started turning out what was essentially the German version of the army Jeep, if you will pardon that comparison, supporting the German war effort and all the atrocities it enabled and tragedies it brought about.

          As a little cherry on top, I think the many folks who paid non-trivial sums to essentially pre-order the car before the war never got that car, nor did they get their money back.

          So, I don't like seeing the Volkswagen poke it's head out as "Hitler's good deed". I don't think you wanted to mislead anyone, and your point about good deeds stands regardless.

          But history is messy, and to learn from it it helps to see it in proper context, especially around this fella and his pugnacious posse.

  • dwa3592a day ago
    This is hilarious. if you scroll down to the bottom it says, "CLICK TO KEEP AVOIDING WORK". lmao. which llm is this?
  • ihrimecha day ago
    I laughed so hard ...
    • craftkillera day ago
      Me too. Audibly laughed out loud and was late to standup because I had to tell my roommate about it.
  • szemy2a day ago
    This is pretty funny!
  • angryjima day ago
    I like this a lot.
  • linhnsa day ago
    Make my day mate
  • gabrielflorita day ago
    This is amazing.
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  • robertheadleya day ago
    I love this.
  • 6510a day ago
    I feel cheated that it is only one page.
  • justinhja day ago
    Not sure if the source code for this is available but if you want to make your own version I did something similar that can be easily modified and run locally for your own festive mirth: https://github.com/justinhj/rudehackernews
  • gowlda day ago
    These are fun but they lose too much of the original content.

    "Texas accidentally does something good for privacy"

    is not really an improvement over the original (already half-editorialized) "Texas is suing all of the big TV makers for spying on what you watch"

  • imvetria day ago
    Thanks for sharing
  • Bravo.
  • morkalorka day ago
    What is the title for this entry now that it's on the front page? I can't find it
  • ZebusJesusa day ago
    This was a great way to start the day over a cup of coffee, sometimes we need things that make as laugh but what is awesome is the titles are spot on. Thank you for making this Friday morning fun
    • keepamovina day ago
      You're welcome! This is what I wanted
  • fogzena day ago
    I love everything about this – the little touches like the logo, the content warning, etc. Thank you for bringing some joy to my day.
    • keepamovina day ago
      You're welcome! I'm so glad you enjoyed it
  • I wish we were that brutally hones irl.
  • moralestapiaa day ago
    >Rich developer spends $15k to run a model slightly faster (jeffgeerling.com)

    LOL ... and it actually ran slower.

    • hu3a day ago
      and it was 40k
  • anon115a day ago
    XDDDDDD
  • Forgeties79a day ago
    This is really funny
  • alexgotoia day ago
    Love the “Click to keep avoiding work” - so true!
    • bombcara day ago
      This is the most brutal cut of all
      • WhyOhWhyQa day ago
        The noprocast feature should have an option to insult the user for returning here.
      • pjerema day ago
        Nah, look at the Y logo :)
  • toomuchtodoa day ago
    Well done!
  • Love it!
  • marai2a day ago
    this is gold!

    “Click to keep avoiding work …”

  • linuxftwa day ago
    I motion HN adopts this to auto-translate all submitted titles.
  • SV_BubbleTimea day ago
    >We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it

    Good LLM prompt, excellent understanding.

    • p2detara day ago
      Original title: `GotaTun -- Mullvad's WireGuard Implementation in Rust`. I laughed too much at the alternative title, because it's so true.
  • stivatrona day ago
    hahaha! very funny.
  • opema day ago
    brutal honesty
  • KalandaDeva day ago
    Academic publishers admit paywalls were a scam all along :D
  • S0ya day ago
    Now I just want to see what this post will be translated to...
  • Lol this legit makes it easier to grep through HN. thanks!
  • ionwakea day ago
    fabulous
  • amazing
  • meindnocha day ago
    Brings back some of that n-gate vibe <3
  • EarlKinga day ago
    Bring back n-gate!
  • tmshaplanda day ago
    lol. would you share the prompt for how you translate them? it really feels like a snarky HN community member rewrote each one.
  • Mistletoea day ago
    This is actually how my brain reads most of the HN posts.
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  • remywanga day ago
    Was hoping for a self aware roast: one weird trick to keep sending your LLM slop to top of HN (/s, I enjoyed it very much)
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  • Cool, n-gate as a service
  • Retr0ida day ago
    Doesn't seem to be live, otherwise there'd be one that says "Hacker News front page now, but the titles are slop"
    • thornewolfa day ago
      maybe so, though an inaccurate claim. the ai is the value add here (and quite a value add based on the other comments in the thread). we typically reserve the word "slop" for ai generated content that is of low quality or no value add. this website seems to be both of quality and value ad and it would be difficult to argue otherwise.
    • idiotsecanta day ago
      Meta-Meta context: The LLM made this post.
    • wiseowisea day ago
      Not everything generated is slop.
      • cwyersa day ago
        "Slop" is at _least_ as fair a description of "we had an LLM rewrite HN headlines" as "we rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it" is of "we removed our biggest source of crashes on Android by getting rid of Go FFI issues."
  • SSLya day ago
    i miss the n-gate roundups
  • byyoung3a day ago
    The training LLMs on old data to avoid woke bias was comedic genius. Something tells me grok is behind this.
  • mikkupikkua day ago
    I miss n-gate.
  • DarkTreea day ago
    Now do the comments
    • erikiga day ago
      I don't think I'm ready for this, I might never go back to "real" work.
  • Entertaining and apparently useful, though of course not infallible. Given https://github.com/DGoettlich/history-llms it yields the title "Training AI on 1913 data to avoid 'woke' bias (and hygiene)". That the Honest Hacker News AI model has been trained on a dose of cynicism and intellectual dishonesty is probably hard to avoid...
  • _el1s7a day ago
    This is cool lol
  • forgetfreemana day ago
    If the maintainer of n-gate.com is still alive and on Hacker News please, your work isn't finished.
  • bitwizea day ago
    (sarcastic David Spade voice) I liked this better the first time around... when it was called n-gate.

    Still pretty funny tho, ngl.

  • queueberta day ago
    Missing the "We have too many file formats for X, so I made another". Could also prepopulate the comments with the ubiquitous xkcd reference.
  • imchillyba day ago
    Twas brillig, and the slithey-news did gyre and gamble on the title. All manic were the Borogoves and gnome-rat's Anti-AI rhetoric in full recital. Beware the SLOP my son! The jaws that slurp, and claws that don't match. Beware the Amazon-nerd, and shun that Facebook Hack.

    He took his local well in hand; long time the perfect pose he sought. So prompted he by the decision tree, and waited while the AI Thought.

    Spaghetti. Meatballs. Slurp. Will I? No. Will Smith. IYKYK

  • tonyhart7a day ago
    "Training AI on 1913 data to avoid 'woke' bias (and hygiene) (github.com)"

    what could this mean???? and why 1913 specifically

  • NoGravitasa day ago
    Makes me nostalgic for n-gate.
  • fruitworksa day ago
    reminds me of n-gate
  • fukukitarua day ago
    I miss n-gate so much
  • wiseowisea day ago
    Lmao, this is great.
  • frtime345a day ago
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  • Cheer2171a day ago
    [dead]
  • barfourea day ago
    Yup. And if you dared to bring this up in the comments (ie. your own rewrite of a title/post), you’d get reminded of the guidelines and downvoted/flagged. Because fuck honesty - we are here for clicks and engagements.

    This is a good step. Next: disclose financial incentives and other motives just to nip it in the bud.

    • freedombena day ago
      well, I think OP is quite funny and I really enjoyed it, but it definitely goes against the entire idea of approaching things in good faith. I'm sure some or even many of them are sadly accurate, but if reinterpreting things people say through that lens became the behavioral norm on HN I think it would quickly destroy everything many people love about this place. Just my 2 cents of course.
      • barfourea day ago
        Only fools approach hyenas in good faith. You have to be naive to allow yourself to get swindled by internet marketing junkies.

        I’m all for prefacing each post that comes from a16z with “Asshole Alert” so that we know who we are dealing with upfront.

  • casey2a day ago
    How is the Mac studio ad title honest?
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  • lapcata day ago
    How much of this navel-gazing junk do we need? See also, from the same author:

    Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46205632 (10 days ago)

    Show HN: Hacker News, but every headline is hysterical clickbait https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46324579 (4 hours ago)

    • gjm11a day ago
      I feel that my life has been improved by all three of these. I hadn't seen the "hysterical clickbait" one before you pointed it out, so thank you even though clearly that was the opposite of your intent.
      • bombcara day ago
        It's somewhat live, as it now has

        META-MELTDOWN: WE BROKE HACKER NEWS WITH THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK (dosaygo-studio.github.io)

    • phoe-krka day ago
      Maybe HN needs some reflection, and satire is one of the best ways to provide it.
      • ok123456a day ago
        There hasn't been since n-gate stopped posting.
        • bombcara day ago
          Comparing this with n-gate really shows the difference between AI and real work.

          Superficially, they're the same, but digging in shows the real difference.

          • ok123456a day ago
            It's soul-crushing work, more suited for machines.
          • phantasmisha day ago
            N-gate was by far the best thing about HN.
      • topaz0a day ago
        And slop is one of the worst ways
        • phoe-krka day ago
          The moment slop becomes more HN-esque than original HN content, it tells you a lot about the quality of HN posts. That is very reflective to me.
    • minimaxira day ago
      It's funny, the OP doesn't have an ulterior motive, and it's close to the holidays so it is not cannibalizing more important news. There's no harm here.
    • floatrocka day ago
      I dunno, sounds like "rapid product iteration to find product-market fit" to me.
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    • ctrlmetaa day ago
      > How much of this navel-gazing junk do we need? See also, from the same author:

      Seriously! I'll admit the first post was mighty fun. But now this is turning into an AI-spam-fest! I objected in the 2nd thread but got downvoted. Apparently the community here thinks this kind of low effort Reddit-style humor is now on-topic for this place!

      Not to mention the systematic downvoting of every comment that is critical of these spam posts!

    • cataparta day ago
      reminds me of how people used to shove autotune into anything and people lapped it up like the slop that it was and this is. but, as with that slop, this will also get boring to the masses. there's only so much "I told an llm to pretend it was deadpool by way of ryan reynolds" that people actually like. the novelty is the brunt of it. and, like with autotune, when used well, people will continue to appreciate it. just ride out the hyperslop, for now.
    • wiseowisea day ago
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    • I've done it before. Projects about hn on hn get a lot of attention.

      They're a lot of fun! And super easy to vibe code, if I'm looking to test a new model.

      It's hard to restrain myself from navel-gazing, the lint in there is fascinating.

      I'm not sure they satisfy curiosity as much as many posts with fewer votes, but that's okay.

  • nine_ka day ago
    This is not "honest", this is mostly just dismissive. The headings are no more neutral and explanatory than the originals, because, I suppose, the intent was just having fun.

    "We rewrote it in snark so you have to upvote".

    • ok123456a day ago
      Is it wrong, though?
      • Well, this one is wrong: "I built a language nobody will use just to learn generics"

        The comments make it clear that the language author has not yet learned generics by this exercise.

      • ctrlmetaa day ago
        Yes, it is wrong. Take the top one:

        > We rewrote it in Rust so you have to upvote it

        I'm pretty sure they didn't go through all the trouble of rewriting it in Rust to get some internet forum points!

        • chuckadamsa day ago
          To quote Foghorn Leghorn: It's a joke, son, you're supposed to laugh.
          • ctrlmetaa day ago
            The joke was fun the first time. When the joke posts (low effort AI slop no less!) are spammed to HN every week, it stops being fun.
            • alt227a day ago
              Its on the front page, that means it atttracted attention and was upvoted. If what you are saying was true, these posts would die very quickly and we would never see them.

              Maybe its just you who doesnt like them?

              • unethical_bana day ago
                I guess if everyone thinks mocking peoples' projects and efforts is funny, it's okay!

                My opinion is a weakly that this is tiring and borderline insulting to people who are genuinely looking for feedback and community. Clever once a year or so, but the creator has leaned into it and posted a lot of meta in a small timeline.

                • alt227a day ago
                  Then if the community agrees with you, these posts will get zero upvotes and we will never see them on the front page again.

                  If not, then you will start seeing them more and more and you will need to suck it up my friend!

              • ctrlmetaa day ago
                > Maybe its just you who doesnt like them?

                Obviously it's just me who doesn't like them. What's your point?

                • alt227a day ago
                  I already made my point. If the community agrees with you then we wont see these on the front page anymore. If not then you will either need to be ok with seeing more of them, or not read HN.
                • unethical_bana day ago
                  They're defensive to the point of hostility. Not sure what compels that.
            • lelanthrana day ago
              > The joke was fun the first time.

              > ...

              > it stops being fun.

              Right. Sorry. We apologise. We didn't know the joke police was monitoring.

        • ok123456a day ago
          Usually, people highlight functional/architectural changes over superficial things like language choice.
          • ctrlmetaa day ago
            That's true. But it is also true that almost nobody rewrites a whole complex software in Rust to get internet forum points from HN people.

            Your question was "Is it wrong, though?" The answer is "Yes"

            • alt227a day ago
              But it sure does lampoon a current point which is that people seem pretty quick to want to share their Rust rewrites of other software.
    • barfourea day ago
      It’s a Fark.com style applied to HN. Maybe we should do a SomethingAwful theme next?