28 pointsby DrierCycle3 months ago6 comments
  • ares6233 months ago
    > country "no longer has a choice"

    I bet it had a couple of choices before this point. The government made all those choices as they came. Now it's being made for them.

    I feel sorry for the people of Tehran.

    I wonder how soon every other place is due. Sooner or later the same choice will be made for all of us.

    • kronicum20253 months ago
      tbh US made a choice for them long ago.
      • Sabinus3 months ago
        How long will US support for a previous government be responsible for conditions in the country?
  • conartist63 months ago
    Wow. The future of living in a barren rock is getting here fast fast fast
    • spwa43 months ago
      Just so we're clear: fresh water is shifting location ... when it comes to the total available, it's increasing. There are many more locations were humans can now live where they couldn't a century ago, not less.

      The issue is not that we can't live anywhere. The earth is greener than before. The issue is that there are a small number of locations where humans can't live anymore, especially not without good water management. Obviously, people don't want to or can't leave, and some of the locations that didn't use to, but now really do require proper management have a LOT of people.

      Teheran has more water than a century ago. But more does not mean infinite.

      • pabs33 months ago
        The water cycle is also becoming more unstable and unpredictable.
      • conartist63 months ago
        Source on this info?
        • spwa43 months ago
          The entire working mechanism of climate change is increased water in the atmosphere. That's why it's getting warmer. CO2 and other gases only accelerate that process a little bit (but as we're at the end of the warming cycle, "a little bit" should be interpreted as accelerating warming by a little bit, if you count the number of years it brings warming forward, that's a lot. Probably a millennium, maybe more). Obviously it also makes things warmer and generally wetter, thereby making very large areas livable that weren't livable before.

          The entire inside of India used to be desert. That desert did not just reduce in size, it split in three pieces and two of them shrunk to zero, and even the third is turning green. The Sahara too is less than half the size it used to be.

          https://theweek.com/environment/sahara-desert-turning-green

          Also, large regions closer to the poles are becoming warmer ... and that means livable.

          And yes, elsewhere deserts are becoming worse, for instance in Spain.

          It doesn't really matter though, as humans are not exactly short on space, and this means we'll need to move large populations in the next century.

        • more_corn2 months ago
          The news? You could search for things like “scientists show how climate change is leading to an increase in extreme weather”
    • lysace3 months ago
      To be clear: the cause here is decades of mismanagement.
      • renewiltord3 months ago
        Fully expect the grey men to say the same of us when they look at a cooked Earth: yes, to be clear, it was mismanagement
      • pabs33 months ago
        On YouTube or Netflix, look up the Fresh Water episode of the Our Planet documentary series by David Attenborough, fresh water is disappearing all over the place due to our actions.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Planet https://www.ourplanet.com/ https://www.ourplanet.com/en/explore/fresh-water/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2DU85qLfJQ

        • lysace2 months ago
          You didn't even bother to do the most basic amount of research on the specific situation before posting those links, did you?

          I don't understand how you think what is entially spam will bolster your cause.

          It's just plain rude. But somehow it's common, even with normally intelligent people like you. Do think a few extra steps, next time, please.

      • mingus883 months ago
        Have you seen the general state of … well, everything?
  • stpedgwdgfhgdd3 months ago
    And why?

    Climate change (no rain) but especially bad water mgt.

    • dogma11383 months ago
      Nuclear program, ballistic missile program, drones, establishing and supporting multiple proxies in the region.

      For a fraction of what they spent on that they could’ve have desalination plants in the Caspian Sea and a water way capable of providing water to their capital.

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    • kotaKat3 months ago
      Yeah, there's something about allocating all of your water to those pesky Shahed drone factories for Russia instead of your civilian needs.
  • tamimio3 months ago
    So they can’t make a water pipeline from the gulf because it’s costly, but moving a whole capital is not?! It seems there are other motivations.
    • dogma11383 months ago
      There are, they want a more secure capital from which they’ll be able to continue operating if a civil war breaks out.
    • mingus883 months ago
      Moving a capital is bureaucratic. Setting up new offices does sound a lot cheaper than engineering a new water pipeline for millions of people across 300 miles.
      • lazide3 months ago
        The people move still needs to happen assuming those people still need water?
  • coffeebeqn3 months ago
    Land subsiding by 30cm per day? That sounds pretty intense. Your whole door would be underground in a few days
    • jadamson3 months ago
      Fairly sure that's a typo, or he misspoke, given the sentence immediately before says "per year".
    • imtringued3 months ago
      Not to mention the permanent destruction of your drained acquifers, which means you can't go back even if you wanted to, because that's what's causing the sinking in the first place.
  • Havoc3 months ago
    Sounds like the moment to act was six months ago