So I would have to suggest, use these features with extreme caution on any page you consider private if you aren't prepared for your private information to get sucked into Google's Gemini training data.
"How your data is used Google uses this data, as described in our Privacy Policy, to:
Provide our services Maintain and improve our services Develop new services Personalise our services (learn more) Customise our services Communicate with you Measure performance Protect Google, our users and the public
These uses extend to the generative AI models and other machine-learning technologies powering our services."
Google is in the same position, yes they have Android, GCP, Gmail/work suite, etc but even all of that combined couldn't sustain the moloch.
These insane levels of revenue streams cannot be sustained with just one product for longer periods of time. Eventually, every one of these biggest X'es will need to branch out to different industries/domains to sustain those levels.
Main difference is that Google is bad at monitising any (non advertising) service; so free becomes the main proposition.
Is Meta much different though?
* Be 18 or over and in the US.
* Use a Mac or Windows computer.
* Use the latest version of Chrome.
* Have Chrome’s language set to English (United States).
* Sign(ed) in to Chrome.
Edit: reference https://abc.xyz/investor/founders-letters/ipo-letter/#:~:tex...
Can you provide a reliable source to verify it?
It's not nothing, but it's something. And, at least on my phone, it's not obvious if it can be turned off.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?lr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Fe...
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/microsoft-swiftkey...
Always assume companies will gather, use and share your data in all ways they legally can. The burden of proof is never on the user that companies don't milk us. Calling it "misinformation" as someone further above did is bizarre. This is the default business model of big tech.
Facts do matter, and I appreciate those that make an effort to state them correctly.
Gosh I hate google products.
I built an extension like this with Claude-code a few days ago because I wanted to see if I could replace the ai feature of Firefox when I switched to LibreWolf. Turns out, it was quite easy for Claude code.
I want a bit further and tried to get the extension to browse around. Individual actions worked, but I couldn’t get it to follow a plan. In the end I finally looked around the code and Claude had made a huge mess with cursor etc.
The complexity of handling the array of messages was a bit too much for the AI agents.
I now have the same as this Gemini ai though and it CAN click links and it works with ollama too. So more private.
All in a few hours of development.
So I am not impressed by Google here
Hmm, no? It has access to all of the content of all of you're currently open tabs, and is able to parse images on web pages as well.
It would be neat if it could also browse on your behalf, but that would present all kinds of security risks.
I 100% don't feel comfortable letting my browser work alone, but "agentic browsers" are a thing some people want and/or are building.
I do need machines to do the browsing for me.
They exist for that very reason, the web is much friendlier.
This is supposed to be a good feature? Not a privacy nightmare?
Of course, it should also be possible to completely disable Gemini so as to avoid accidentally sending it private browsing content.
https://research.google/blog/mechanism-design-for-large-lang...
Think TikTok, except where the platform is both curator and creator.
So just like how we don't watch the same thing at the same time anymore due to on-demand media, and the talking about yesterday's big TV show is only a thing of the past now. It will be one more step removed from that and you will have kids talking about this random thing that appeared in their custom show yesterday. Conversations like "dude, did you also get that singing toilet in your stream yesterday, what was that about".
Due to the laws of enshittification they will eventually never be tuned to your benefit.
> Have a question about what you're reading? Ask Gemini. It uses the context of your open tabs to provide relevant answers and explanations, keeping you focused.
In France some bits of the page are localized, some are still in English -- doesn't project professionalism or inspire confidence.
So, on the consent-quality-useful triangle (WIP), Google is clearly eliminating quality and consent to provide you with a useful interface to the Google consentless compression box. Just what everyone wanted. The future is now.
Notification: You have 2 new views (details button: 2 ad-consenting views, 0 other views) on the photo you took of the compression artifact on a video that you suspect Google might have accidentally compressed without your consent, confusing itself to be Instagram. Unfortunately, your comparison photo gets equally confused and is compressed to be equally as bad as the compressed one. Now the photos look identical, and you look like a conspiracy theorist tweeting about "video encoding" from your Sesame Street Elmo phone, just like everyone else, with no issue at all. "We're in the Ourobouros. Maybe Paramount isn't the issue. Maybe it's Paramount Plus." The Samsung rolly-polly bug interrupts and insists this issue will have to wait because it's 2pm on Friday. Now, your Elmo phone is now the only device still working in the office, as you try to convince your wife why you have to stay late, "Because you're different than the rest of the people posting compression artifact-laden photos."
They do have phone support, but they refused to unlock the account and just said she'll never be able to use primary email account with Apple's systems because of the frozen account.
So yes, any cloud provider can lock you out for arbitrary reasons. Just because they answer the phone doesn't mean the customer support agent can actually do anything about it.
I once accidentally hit the "screenshot" button on my android phone while I had bing.com open, which uploaded that photo to google photos automatically, and my account was banned the next day.
The next account, I was in a Google Meet call with someone, and I said "Geez, meet is so slow, we should switch to zoom", and my account was instantly banned.
My third account got banned for emailing curse words to ceo@google.com, calling them all sorts of bad words for banning my first two accounts.
......
My point is, there are zero instances I know of where a google account has been banned for sharing content with a service, be that uploading porn to google drive or google photos, emailing competitors, screenshotting on android, etc etc.
The _only_ exception I know to that is uploading CSAM, so as long as you don't like go to CSAM sites and click the gemini button you should be fine.
If you're worried about clicking the gemini button "on the wrong website", and by that you do mean CSAM, then good, I hope such a person does get banned.
The actual way I've lost all my google accounts is that they reject logging in with the correct password after I move and get a new IP, they insist I need to use my backup email to login, and my backup email is with some ISP that has since gone out of business, or is a @yahoo email that got deleted by yahoo.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-cs...
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45292260
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45292163
LLMs interacting with markup is not the best abstraction layer.
But you might want to be careful about which web pages you share this way?
> To use Gemini in Chrome on your computer, you need to: Be 18 or over and in the US. Use a Mac or Windows computer. Use the latest version of Chrome. Learn how to update Chrome. Sign in to Chrome. This feature isn’t available in Incognito mode. Learn how to sign in to Chrome. Have Chrome’s language set to English (United States).
Why can't I set Chrome to whichever language I may want and still have that Gemini thing in english?
It was forced into Windows task bar as well.
This seems to be in the same vein.
[0] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nx4gJA-qWodYWm-SK87Aa63i_jF...
My guess is it's either the first part (doing it via Gemini in Chrome) or the last part (permissions enabled).
chrome://settings/ai redirects to chrome://settings (general settings). Manually searching 'ai' brings up dozens of other settings - stuff like 'mail' (which contains 'ai' string) - but nothing Gemini-related.
On the most up to date chrome: Version 140.0.7339.186 (Official Build) (arm64)
The instructional video [0] says there should be a 'Gemini' icon on the top of the Chrome browser, but I don't have one (macOS). (do I have to have a paid Gemini account for it to be there?).
In any case, when OpenAI and Grok launch things, I usually just go and try them in about 20 seconds. By comparison Google's AI launches are tedious..
(thanks for the help btw)
I can confirm a paid Gemini account is not [corrected] needed.
No problem, it took me a minute to get it enabled myself - not sure why it's so special cased for what it is.
Google should say this up front (or at least prompt that I need to pay) rather than wasting users' time.
The 'How do I use Gemini in Chrome?' section of their launch page doesn't say anything about that requirement either.
Anyway, </rant>. Thanks for your help.
To reclarify: A paid account is NOT needed. I do not have one and it works. Do note the page says a US based Google account is needed though, it just doesn't need to be a paid gemini account.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZifoxoUSy1vEgh2Qx8GaCsb5ywE...
I would like to inspect some part of the DOM and chat about it with an LLM, including the CSS rules that are applied to each subnode in my selection.
Google is about to break even further away in the LLM race with this move, seeing as they will be getting an absolutely, supremely stunning amount of regular and novel data 24/7. Not everyone uses dedicated LLM interfaces, but more people I know use Google search. As Google === Search for so many.
Nevertheless, it is an business savvy move to make, considering the recent ruling by the judge to not force Google to split apart or break up its business w/r/t to Chrome.
A monopoly is when you do anti-competitive things, not when your product is far and away the most popular.
If anything blame Firefox for dropping the ball so damn hard
Google is an anticompetitive monopoly, and Chrome is an anticompetitive monopoly. This has been established by multiple courts of law. Your armchair claims to the contrary hold no water.
These are all things Apple could build into safari, but they're nowhere to be seen. They'll be stuck solving yesterday's problems (like building an infinitesimally better camera for the latest iPhone), but not at all integrating any AI into them.
Not to mention that actually giving Google money for anything other than an in-app purchase is oddly hard work - try buying a Google business subscription and behold an interface worse than AWS's console. Google has so much catching up to do that it's conceivable that they'll eventually fail.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45292260
Maybe someone can post the change log tomorrow and we can do it again.
I'm thinking over the weekend we could post the GitHub merge of these AI features so we can give Google even more exposure.
By Tuesday I hope someone will write a review of these features rehashing the same thing. I'd love to have that be upvoted to the top of HN again.
Like if users can just get the info they want right at Google.com why would they click through to any of the search results? Isn't that stealing clicks from websites?
iOS locks you down to safari already.
Then web attestation and platform attestation/drm for mobile apps is eventually firmly in place and it means you can only use either android or ios for paying your bills (already a thing for most banks where I live...) or even doing mundane government bureaucracy.
god, what a timeline... and even if you don't live in the country responsible for this mess you still have to suffer these consequences and everyone is so apathetic and shuts their brains off when mentioning any of these problems.
Welcome to the Vibe Browsing security nightmare.
A local model capable enough to do the things that this is designed to do? Yes please.
Gemini in Chrome is a way to increase adoption. Gemma in Chrome is an innovation - a platform that allows developers to build stuff leveraging the local model. A step closer to a world where we can talk to our computers and have them do what we mean instead of what we say.
You didn't want it in your phone, bang, it's there!
You didn't want it in your browser, bang, it's there!
Next, coming to a fridge near you! /s
Well, with Samsung forcing ads on their "smart" fridges [0], Google + AI can't be far behind.
Thank god we have strong regulation in the US to protect us. /s
