My Favorite PostgreSQL 18 Feature: Virtual Generated Columns(tselai.com)
50 pointsby fforflo2 days ago5 comments
  • garyclarke2721 hours ago
    Stored generated columns would be much more useful if they could reference other rows and tables, they are limited to only the current row. Automatic incremental view maintenance would also solve this problem, but is unfortunately still a glaring omission in Postgres capabilities.
  • saltcureda day ago
    Aside from the SQL syntax, what is the difference between this and the longstanding virtual column feature, where you can define a function that takes the table's record type as input and return a scalar? PostgreSQL already let you use table.funcname as a virtual column, as I recall.
    • mdaniela day ago
      It's possible the following argument is what you meant by "from the SQL syntax," and if so apologies for the noise

      At least one demonstrable difference I can see between your recollection and this feature is that the column name being part of the DDL pushes the logic down into the DDL, versus every client having to carry that magic expression around with them. I think it's likely the age-old application-logic-client-side versus stored-proc camps

        db=# select id, cast(length(name) AS text)||'0' as silly from my_table
      as compared to <<select id, silly from my_table>> for the consumer
      • saltcureda day ago
        The virtual column feature I remember is halfway in between. It is not part of the DDL nor reported table schema, so the developer needs to know about it.

        But if a function called silly with input type my_table existed, you could still do your second query. It has syntactic sugar for making a bare function name implicitly invoke on the current row record.

        I can't remember if that sugar could also be used in an expression index. I never really used this syntactic feature, as I thought being more explicit with function calls would be better coding style.

    • sharlos201068a day ago
      That's still not a column and isn't included with things like select *
  • icedchaia day ago
    In the past, I've used views to add "virtual columns" where I didn't want to hard code them into the application.
  • sgarlanda day ago
    Welp, that’s it. That was the last thing MySQL had that Postgres didn’t (modulo clustering index, which OrioleDB does, soooo…).

    Can’t wait!

  • illegally21 hours ago
    I don't really find these kind of features necessary.

    You can, and probably should, do these things in your application code. I mean, it's not really that hard to make a string lowercase, you don't need to define a "virtual colum" for that...

    • combatentropy5 hours ago
      You're right, it's not that hard. But why would you rather do it there?