22 pointsby gangtao5 months ago7 comments
  • tines5 months ago
    So you have to be able to identify a priori what is and isn't an hallucination right?
    • ares6235 months ago
      The oracle problem is solved. Just use an actual oracle.
    • happyPersonR5 months ago
      I guess the real question is how often do you see the same class of hallucination ? For something where you're using an LLM agent/Workflow, and you're running it repeatedly, I could totally see this being worthwhile.
    • makeavish5 months ago
      Yeah, reading the headline got me excited too. I thought they are going to propose some novel solution or use the recent research by OpenAI on reward function optimization.
      • esafak5 months ago
        It's rather cheeky to call it "real-time AI hallucination detection" when all they're doing is checking for invalid moves and playing twice. You don't even need real-time processing for this, do you?
        • gangtao5 months ago
          the chess is just a simple example, realtime processing is critical is many AI monitoring use cases
  • joegibbs5 months ago
    But what exactly does this product do that you can’t from just parsing the stream?

    Besides, the problem with hallucinations is the unknown unknowns: if what you’re doing is easily verifiable (like parsing JSON or checking valid chess moves) it’s trivial. But what if you don’t know the answer yourself? Then it’s basically impossible to solve.

    • gangtao5 months ago
      Yes, you are absolutely right, my works only demonstrate how to catch the hallucination in realtime in case we know what kind of hallucination with clear definition.

      To detect those unknown hallucication is a very hard problem. If you dont know the target, how do you shoot it.

  • uncomputation5 months ago
    There’s a more generalizable work on this recently for those expecting more. https://github.com/leochlon/hallbayes
  • Zeik5 months ago
    I didn’t understand quite the point of the claims from end of the page. Surely automatic cars or health/banking services don’t use language models for anything important. Everyone knows those hallucinate. ML is lot better alternative.
  • tingfirst5 months ago
    AI can be hallucination but real-time detection is key
  • yunwal5 months ago
    is this satire?
  • curtisszmania5 months ago
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