4 pointsby BruceEel2 days ago1 comment
  • fjfaase2 days ago
    A lot of arguments are based on the supposed 'strange' orbit and not so much on any physical evidence. Feels very speculative to me.
    • BruceEel2 days ago
      I find the alignment with the ecliptic plane puzzling. The fact that it's within 5 degrees tolerance, apparently, the chance of that is ~0.2% according to Dr.Loeb. It makes me wonder whether it's possible the object is not interstellar after all but rather some very far out solar system body flung inwards at high speed by something massive (e.g. passing star) thousands of years ago...
      • fjfaasea day ago
        According to wikipedia 3I/ATLAS has an inclination of 175.11±0.0003°, which means that it is not at all moving close to the ecliptic plane. Most gravitational bound objects beyond Neptune are not in the ecliptic plane.
        • BruceEela day ago
          That refers to the direction of 3I/ATLAS' trajectory, think of it like this: if the Earth was rotating around the Sun on the exact same orbital perimeter but in the opposite direction, its inclination would be 180º, perfectly retrograde with respect to the current 0º, so, 180-175 means that 3I/ATLAS is just 5º off the ecliptic plane. And you are right about the trans Neptunian objects being unbound in that sense. By the way, this is what Grok(3) had to say about my hypothesis (parent comment):

          "Unlikely. 3I/ATLAS's hyperbolic orbit (e=6.2) and high excess velocity (~60 km/s) strongly indicate an extrasolar origin, as solar system perturbations (e.g., by passing stars) rarely produce such inbound speeds for bound objects like those in the Oort cloud. The puzzling 0.2% [probability of] plane alignment suggests other anomalies, warranting further study."