I don't know if this style of... discussion is something the Cluely team made popular recently, or if it took off sooner, but I really hope it doesn't catch on further.
Gotta love seeing a code of conduct:
> We as members, contributors, and leaders pledge to make participation in our community a harassment-free experience for everyone
And down in Enforcement (emphasis mine):
> Instances of abusive, harassing, or otherwise unacceptable behavior may be reported to the community leaders responsible for enforcement at [INSERT CONTACT METHOD]. All complaints will be reviewed and investigated promptly and fairly.
What’s the point of this dance when you can’t bother to fill out the contact.
In other words, the point of this dance is to check a box. I mean literally, GitHub will check a box in Insights -> Community Standards when you add one.
Nothing there seems to reflect poorly on the project as far as I can tell?
https://github.com/OpenCut-app/OpenCut/graphs/contributors
https://github.com/OpenCut-app/OpenCut/commits?author=Zaid-m...
However, I'd get rid of this 'contributor' asap if I was a maintainer.
Flamewars, internet jerks and online bullying has been around since irc. If not longer.
imo looking at the thread, I see a bunch of people throwing a few strongly worded comments at each other in a typical heated discussion online.
We used to call this flamewars.
But since this is a BS claim, I think the following approach is totally appropriate:
- Have one person post the antagonistic garbage the OP deserves
- Have another person play the “rear guard” and follow up with the actual legal reasons they won’t comply.
I would let them do a takedown, just so they expend billable lawyer hours, only for me to do a search+replace and reupload under a different name out of spite.
That said, China regularly blocks or attacks Github users, so I don't think any open source project needs to be too wary unless they're trying to do business in China.
Oh, I didn't know that. At least now it makes some sense. Thanks.
edit: thinking about it, we could look at your tone here as well to illustrate the point. Sure you weren't as uhh "passionate," but let's look at it more closely:
>Nah you still come off as childish when you reply like that
1) "Nah" is a very dismissive way of saying "I disagree." Then you follow it up 2) by calling someone "childish." There are certainly more respectful ways to make your point! Then again, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Someone else might though.
How was the initial claim "disrespectful"? It might not be using maximally cuddly language, but "[...] your platform seriously infringes on our legitimate rights and interests, please rename to other one." seems pretty respectful to me. Was it only "disrespectful" because it was wrong?
The person I was referring to as childish:
>No one gives a shit, get out of here!
>BLAH BLAH BLAH
(and then when someone points out he is in fact NOT the maintainer and is a contributor)
>I am the maintainer of this project who says I am not. I only made changes to CI by my choice. Ask maze before making false exceptions to me otherwise you will be hearing from my lawyers next time for harassment.
If anyone is looking for tips on what to NOT do, it's a gold mine.
It already has.
It is the late teens/young twenties online communication style. Generally pretty aggressive, but easy to ignore because they are usually not really saying anything of substance. They are "ragebaiting" you.
Torvalds may have "invented" OSS toxicity, but, as far as I can tell, he was not popping in saying SYBAU like he was commenting on a tiktok brainrot compilation.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7526498 https://archive.is/9bHTi (archived version of github issue linked in above thread) https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/24/opencart_vulnerabilit... https://github.com/opencart/opencart/issues/12947#issuecomme...
So many GitHub stars and not a single screenshot of it anywhere, not on GitHub, not on Google, not on the official webpage that just have a wait-list and their twitter Bash capcut with screenshots of capcut but none of opencutapp.
And I mean I wish something like that to succeed, but it doesn't look like that they have much to show for at the moment.
I'm almost sure that the GitHub stars are manipulated or even bought but it's a baseless accusation on my part. These days Codeberg seems to be closer to what GitHub once aspired to be or more aptly was for a while.
I'd like to rant more about how GitHub is inching closer year by year to LinkedIn for devs with a hint of Product Hunt but eh, what's the point?
Follower count and activity looks about right. There's some screenshots there. I assume the star count is due to some amount of marketing.
I know buying stars and followers is pretty straight forward.
https://www.star-history.com/#OpenCut-app/OpenCut&Date
Like when you have nothing to show off, after the first day, already gaining thousands of stars per day. And the last 5 days, with 2 or more thousands per day consistently, linearly...
And let's say that we believe in the stars, just look at the number of forks, why so many persons would fork the project so fast, to still do nothing, no contribution or personal commits. Accounts of new users, or almost empty, or shaddy like the following one: https://github.com/1234567891o12?tab=repositories
https://github.com/kietsyu?tab=overview&from=2025-02-01&to=2...
https://github.com/jakele86?tab=overview&from=2025-03-01&to=...
https://github.com/Lukriss98?tab=overview&from=2024-06-01&to...
Or the following one that is quite fun:
In this one, the only other project is a AI generated SEO optimized recipe blog with all the boilerplate still there.
Compare this to openai/whisper, which was a huge release at the time by the hottest AI unicorn (1.7k points on HN for the release), immediately useful and with much better user alignment: https://www.star-history.com/#OpenCut-app/OpenCut&openai/whi... The star growth was no comparison to this one person early stage project.
So I agree with others, there’s basically no chance this is organic.
I just want to use your application and recommend it to my friend who uses capcut but this seems so AI generated, so ragebait induced with Zaid and the code of conduct is not followed, the stars feels like they are frauded and even though I starred your project, I feel like unstarring it, since I am not even sure if this project has a simple prototype we can use at this point and I am clearly frustrated.
I know this edgy style appeals to some people, but it’s a quick way to alienate most users. Nothing screams “this project is not for you” like copy that feels like it was targeted at impressing someone’s friends in an edgy Discord, not actual potential users.
Although I don’t think this project is trying to appeal to a general audience with the level of technical expertise required to even begin to use it.
For example: there's very reasonable arguments that COCs are needed to protect against actual material harm/bullying/abuse targeting individual contributors on projects but this copy specifically does none of that.
In that context, it's just a matter of taste - there's no real reason to police tone that isn't harmful (to anything other than a bottom line).
I’m not asking for corporate speak. I’m suggesting simple communication that explains the information without insulting the reader and calling them a “motherfucker” every other sentence would be less alienating
> In that context, it's just a matter of taste - there's no real reason to police tone that isn't harmful (to anything other than a bottom line)
I’m not here to police anything or anyone. They’re free to write as they please. I’m just pointing out that writing this way is a big red flag to a lot of people this project’s target audience is the edgelord crowd. If that’s what they’re aiming for then there’s nothing wrong with that, but I don’t think they realize how making strong appeals to that narrow target audience is a fast track to pigeon holing your project as an edgelord thing. Just taking one look at the low brow insults and trash talking in the GitHub issues confirms it.
Emotions going way overboard are usually not good for engineering, or for open-source project governance. Aggressive negative emotions, doubly so.
By dropping any pretense of being polite or approachable, you basically encourage people to shut the f*ck up and either be happy with what they got or else submit a PR.
A good deal of the site is just them complaining they don't get access to free stuff from CapCut anymore.
It's not "take it or leave it", it's "waah how dare you not give it to me."
Linus Torvalds does this without feeling the need to articulate himself like a Scarface character. It's not a coincidence that he was the primary author of the biggest open source project in the world.
It selects for people who are drawn to harsh language and think calling people “motherfucker” is both normal and cool.
Guess how those people are going to communicate right back to you when they want something?
In any case, is your question rhetorical? :D
Many grownups take offense at both sites.
It’s the back door way to collect money from content creators and businesses. Most of the people I know who were using CapCut either had their employers pay for it or had some way to tax deduct it as part of their creator activities.
Paying $20/month on top of an actual business is usually trivial, especially if it saves someone time or improves quality of the content.
The TikTok slop posts aren’t spending any time perfecting their edits. They’re mass producing content as rapidly as they can from phone camera to TikTok
Very few casual desktop CapCut users are going to get past the prerequisits of instal "Bun, Docker and Docker Compose, and Node.js"
Blender, Shotcut, OpenShot, or Kdenlive are probably the better open source video editor options right now.
They just need to pack it as an single AppImage or Electron app. Bun and Docker are made for developers, not users.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44540804 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44355853
edit: I am genuinely curious about spam prevention on HN. What systems we got working against fraudulent actors?
If a story has not had significant attention in the last year or so, a small number of reposts is ok.
Three counts as "a small number of reposts", particularly when it's from different users, and the fact that it eventually attracted upvotes and a good discussion indicates the reposts were warranted, as randomness plays a big role in whether or not a submission gets traction.
Also, we don't like to see public "callouts" like this, and the guidelines ask us to avoid accusations of astroturfing, shilling, etc, because a false public accusation is more harmful than a valid one is beneficial. Please contact us at hn@ycombinator.com if you see anything suspicious.
FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
Guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I am not a fraudulent actor (not sure what basis there is for that accusation) and generally post things I come across. OpenCut was in my GitHub feed today, seemed like it could be useful to others, ergo I shared it.
A post getting two submissions twice does not make this a re-post. Nobody on earth saw the previous submissions.
It's permissible for folks to submit posts a few times until they actually get noticed or dang steps in to tell them to stop. The author is doing things exactly as the rules permit.
If you've learned from your wife's social media career, you know that you often have to keep trying in order to pick up traction. The algorithm requires signal.
> Enter your email. Join waitlist
> 59284 people already joined
I would have expected a bit more from the main page, would be helpful to have a link to the /projects URL that someone else mentioned, or a screenshot demonstrating the software!
For the FOSS video editing software out there, I tried out Shotcut (https://www.shotcut.org/) and OpenShot (https://www.openshot.org/), though both of them were either a bit unpolished or unstable, with the occasional crash along the way.
I had a way better experience with kdenlive, which was my main video editor for a bit, has the basic features I'd expect, as well as decent codec support: https://kdenlive.org/
As for other options, DaVinci Resolve still feels like the more professional software suite that you'd go for, sans the cost, albeit the UI can be a bit awkward in places to someone used to the likes of kdenlive/Sony Vegas: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve
Honestly the 'Project Structure' section which is just a directory listing, feels like it was generated by an LLM.
That's not how it works, but I agree it's weird there is no screenshot.
Even something as basic as opening a video file is a huge challenge. I can't just open a video file. Instead, I need to "create a new project", which requires that I specify the exact resolution and FPS of the video file beforehand (why!?). After I use a completely separate tool to extract these attributes from the video that I'm editing, I have a blank canvas onto which I can drag the actual video.
The UI is somewhat clumsy but I think it is pretty good that we have an open source video editor.
This of course is most likely a skill issue at my part but it really feels to me like kdenlive is getting in the way of my flow much less than davinci
Very nice color options though, that part is hard to beat
Maybe the next version can be called OpenWound or ShotCutStabbed
However, why do you have a waitlist for an open-source project? And why do you brag of having Databuddy analytics built-in?
Are you just a startup that's building in public and using open-source as a marketing trick before monetizing it?
Most features are still just TODO, but you can at least overlay text onto video. The interface seems reasonable so far, basically works like any other NLE I've ever used. If this continued to evolve, I can only imagine many would consider it to be a very useful tool to have available.
Thats a weird bit of code. If the function changes execute it ?
Ref: https://github.com/OpenCut-app/OpenCut/blob/main/apps/web/sr...
They want to make sure you call out dependencies. It annoys me alot when you know they won't change. And if they do (some reference change on render)... well that's just a footgun of React and I argue this doesnt help.
Makes sense. A few years back, a stale closure bug consumed two full working days and one full night for me.
implying that javascript and rust in the same tier is mistake
I'd probably rather build some things (most things) in JS than Rust. It has GC and let's me focus more on the business problem. But id even more prefer Go Java or C#. But I'm a microservice monkey so ymmv.
Also if you love the F word read this file: https://github.com/OpenCut-app/OpenCut/blob/main/apps/web/sr...
What are the pros and cons of this one?
0. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_applications/Multim...
I'm seeing a lot of posts from people discussing everything and anything other than whether or not the application is fit for purpose and does what it's claiming it does.
>Hey, have you tried TwitterCut yet? It’s this cool tool I found that turns your tweets into awesome videos in just one click. Super easy to use—just @cutcutai in a Twitter thread, and it creates the videos directly for you.
Are those tools affiliated or are you affiliated with either?
What is there to wait on and what do they need your email for?
Pretty fishy. (Or phishy?)