Ask HN: If I write a book, is there a legal way I can stop LLMs from reading it?
3 pointsby mattigames7 months ago6 comments
  • gregjor7 months ago
    No. Even if you tried the AI companies don’t care. You don’t have the resources to enforce it, and slap on the wrist fines don’t bother big tech companies.
  • verdverm7 months ago
    Recent court rules have affirmed that it is ok for models to read copyrighted material as part of training, as long as they pay for it.

    That being said, some AI companies are offering methods to opt-out

    • mattigames7 months ago
      I hope sometime soon the US and other major countries backtracks that decision, and make it fully opt-in not opt-out
      • verdverm7 months ago
        What's wrong with an AI reading your book? They have to pay for it, so you will make money
        • mattigames7 months ago
          I don't want millions of people being able to one-click generate texts that can emulate my style and thinking without even reading anything of what I have wrote?

          > "Hey have to pay for it, so you will make money"

          The bubble you people live in is something else.

          • verdverm7 months ago
            Have you not learned to write by reading and emulating other authors?

            That's how learning works

            I personally give my writing away for free and want others to access it directly or through AI.

            • mattigames6 months ago
              This is extremely far away from what we meant by the word "learning"* for millions of years, and you know it, stop playing dumb please.

              *or equivalent in ancient languages

      • 7 months ago
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  • johncoltrane7 months ago
    First, the obvious: legal ways to stop anything have never succeeded in stopping anything.

    Second, what would you loose from your book being used to train LLMs and what would you gain from preventing that? Are you afraid of loost sales? Or maybe plagiarism? Those problems have existed for a loooong time, LLMs or not. Or is it that you don't generally like the current AI craze and don't want to fuel it?

  • 123yawaworht4567 months ago
    include the gamer word on every page and the whole book might get filtered out from the dataset
  • tocs37 months ago
    Don't show it to anybody.
    • mattigames7 months ago
      Or show them in place they cannot have any way to copy it onto a digital medium.
  • haebom7 months ago
    Never