31 pointsby voxadam16 hours ago4 comments
  • treetalker15 hours ago
    There's neurological damage somewhere — just not where the panel expects to find it.
  • burnt-resistor12 hours ago
    The larger problem is it's dangerous and unscientific to switch or remove preservatives without studies collecting evidence for safety. It's entirely possible uncountable hundreds to thousands of people will be injured from infections due to a lack of preservatives. Of course, knowing how these people operate, they will cover up the evidence so we will never know without a whistleblower.
  • Spivak15 hours ago
    Why does anyone even care about thi…

    > the preservative has been a talking point of anti-vaccine advocates for decades

    Ahh, that makes sense. Is the best way to get policy made over the next four years gonna be to seed it to fringe conspiracy groups?

    • bbarnett15 hours ago
      cede
      • selbyk15 hours ago
        Seed, to plant

        Not cede, to surrender

        • bbarnett12 hours ago
          Giving control of policy to fringe groups is ceding control to them.

          Seeding an idea, to plant an idea does not jive here.

          • BoiledCabbage11 hours ago
            > Seeding an idea, to plant an idea does not jive here.

            It does. If you want to see any reasonable policy passed instead of craziness, you need to convince some conspiracy groups to believe it, then it will be taken up by the administration and passed.

            Plant the idea, they grow it and it gets passes. It's pretty clear that's what OP meant. 'Ceed', in this context makes no sense. In the discussed example policy is already coming from fringe groups, there is nothing to ceed to them. But to plant ideas with them that you want passed is how you'll get policy.

            Note, not saying I agree or disagree with the original statement, just clarify what they meant by it.

            • bbarnett10 hours ago
              That makes zero sense in this comment/context. Are you spreading misinformation as the panel did, in an artistic act of mimicry?

              If so, I applaud. I am moved, my soul touched.

              The idea discussed has been believed for decades by the cited fringe groups. The idea wasn't an example of anything being planted, but instead lunatic insane nutjob fringe group anti-vaxxers are now makig policy.

              Policy in this area has been lost to the loons, the nutjobs, ceded to them.

              • mongoosled3 hours ago
                And since policy decisions have been ceded to them, in order to get some reasonable policy passed we must seed the loons with a reasonable idea that they can believe and run with until rfk or whomever hears about that seeded idea and enacts it.
          • douAgree11 hours ago
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  • acevintagetura16 hours ago
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