200 pointsby tosh4 days ago18 comments
  • jbentley14 days ago
    I think integration into existing IDEs is the wrong form for agentic coding. The best way to work is managing several Git worktrees with agents running so you aren't stuck waiting 20+ minutes for Claude Code to finish.

    I built a UI to manage this, and it is starting to turn into a new type of IDE, based around agent management and review rather than working on one thing at a time.

    https://github.com/stravu/crystal

    • skydhash4 days ago
      When I see proposals for this kind of workflow, the one question I have is how will you manage your personal context. When I’m reviewing code by coworker, I’m not seeking to fully understand the code or checking that it’s correct. I’m mostly trying to get a high level understanding and checking for glaring mistakes (code styles, best practices,…). I can get through a lot of PR in a day that way.

      For more important stuff, like if it falls under my supervision, I will test the branch and carefully check the implementation. And this for each PR updates. That takes a lot longer.

      So I’m wondering, how do you context switch between many agent running and proposing diffs. Especially if you need to vet the changes. And how do you manage module dependencies where an update by one task can subtly influence the implementation by another?

      • LeafItAlone4 days ago
        >So I’m wondering, how do you context switch between many agent running and proposing diffs. Especially if you need to vet the changes.

        I’m wondering this too. But from what I have seen, I think most people doing this are not really reading and vetting the output. Just faster, parallelized, vibe coding.

        Not saying that’s what parent is doing, but it’s common.

        • stingraycharles4 days ago
          Yeah. I would like multiple agents because each can be primed with a different system prompt and “clean” context. This has been proven to work, eg with Aider’s “architect” vs “editor” models / agents working together.

          For parallel work who want stuff to “happen faster”, I am convinced most of these people don’t really read (nor probably understand) the code it produces.

          • scuol4 days ago
            It's basically like having N of the most prolific LoC producing colleagues who don't have a great mental model of how the language works that you have to carefully parse all of their PRs.

            Honestly, I've seen too many fairly glaring mistakes in all models I've tried that signal that they can't even get the easy stuff right consistently. In the language I use most (C++), if they can't do that, how can I trust them to get all the very subtle things right? (e.g. very often they produce code that holds some form of dangling references, and when I say "hey don't do that", they go back to something very inefficient like copying things all over the place).

            I am very grateful they can churn out a comprehensive test suite in gtest though and write other scripts to test / do a release and such. The relief in tedium there is welcome for sure!

      • jbentley14 days ago
        I tried to make it easy to remember what you are doing. You can see the prompts you ran, and I used the Monaco editor from VSCode to view and edit the diffs.

        I think there are opportunities to give special handling to the markdown docs and diagrams Claude likes to make a long the way to help review.

      • EGreg4 days ago
        Why don’t you automate this checking with AI? You can then cover hundreds of PRs a day.
        • Voloskaya4 days ago
          > You can then cover hundreds of PRs a day.

          I would argue you haven't covered any.

          Why not just skip the reviews then? If you can trust the models to have the necessary intelligence and context to properly review, they should be able to properly code in the first place. Obviously not where models are at today.

          • EGreg4 days ago
            Not necessarily. It's like the Generative Adversarial Network (GAN). You don't just trust the generator, but it's a back-and-forth between the Generator and Discriminator.
            • Voloskaya4 days ago
              The discriminator is trained on a different objective than the generator, it's specifically trained on being good at discriminating, so it is complimentary.

              Here we are talking about the same model doing the review (even if you use a different model provider, it's still trained on essentially the same data, with the same objective and very similar performances).

              We have had agentic systems where one agent checks the work of another since 2+ years, this isn't a paradigm pushed by AI coding model providers because it doesn't really work that well, review is still needed.

        • derwiki4 days ago
          Turtles all the way down. We seem to be marching towards a future like that, but are we there today? Some of the AI-generated PRs I’ve seen teammates put out “work” (because sometimes two wrongs make a right) but convince me we still need a human in the loop.

          But that was two weeks ago; maybe it’s different today

        • jbentley14 days ago
          The other replies are correct that right now you need some level of human review, but it would be interesting to have a second AI review with a clean context. Maybe a security checklist, or a prompt telling it to check that the tests are covering the functionality appropriately.
    • Etheryte4 days ago
      There's no reason you couldn't do the same thing as an IDE plugin.
      • jbentley14 days ago
        Yes there is. IDEs just aren't designed for it. The main screen in an IDE is a single branch at a time, I want to be managing a swarm of agents on multiple branches/worktrees
        • Etheryte3 days ago
          You don't need IDE support for this, it's all Git under the hood. Your extension can hold virtual branches in memory in the background, feed the file contents to the LLM through that layer and back, and the only problem you need to deal with after the fact is how to resolve conflicts, but the LLM would also be a good candidate to handle that. The more I think about it, the more Git makes this a straightforward implementation compared to say SVN, since branches cost nearly nothing. All of this is not to say that it's a trivial piece of work, but it is very much doable without building a new IDE from scratch.
        • radicalbyte4 days ago
          That needs isolation, which in practise means multiple machines..
          • derwiki4 days ago
            Why machines? Multiple clones of the same repo is one low tech way to achieve that.
            • brulard4 days ago
              If we're talking for example full stack JS/TS app, wouldn't you need a separate build/dev server running, database and likely more?
          • naasking4 days ago
            I don't see why you necessarily need multiple machines, just multiple checkouts, one for each agent. Depends on what shared resources are involved, eg. databases, etc.
        • int_19h3 days ago
          Why not multiple IDE windows then?
    • SkyPuncher4 days ago
      Your tool is cool, but is solves a different issue.

      Right now, background agents have two major problems:

      1. There is some friction to getting the isolated environment working correctly. Difficulty depends on specifics of each project. Ranging from "select this universal container" to "it's going to be hell getting all of your dependencies working". Working in your IDE pretty much solves that - it's likely a place where everything is already setup.

      2. People need to learn how agents build code. Watching an agent work in your IDE while being able to interject/correct them is extremely helpful to long term success with background agents.

    • mindwok3 days ago
      I personally disagree. I use Cursor every day on commercial projects, and while I find background agents cool and useful in some contexts they are more often than not simply a distraction.

      My preferred way to vibe code is to lock in on a single goal and iterate towards it. When I'm waiting for stuff to finish, I'm exploring docs or info to figure out how to get closer. Reviewing the existing codebase or changes is also super useful for me to grasp where I'm up to and what to do next. This idea of managing swarms of agents for different tasks does not gel with me, too much context switching and multitasking.

    • Jonovono4 days ago
      Looks cool! What was your reason for not using the Claude Code TS SDK? Looks like you install the package, but are manually spawning claude commands instead?

      Side note: You should look into electron-trpc. it greatly simplifies IPC handling

    • brulard4 days ago
      This is nice, I was thinking about needing multiple working trees for different sessions of claude code.

      Regarding your webpage - I wish you would vibe away the annoying header coming down every time I scroll just tiny little bit up.

    • OtherShrezzing4 days ago
      For Anthropic, they’ve got to put their product where their customers are. If they’re all in a cli or IDE, then the correct place to put agenetic coding features is into the cli or IDE.
    • throwaway3141554 days ago
      > The best way to work is managing several Git worktrees with agents running so you aren't stuck waiting 20+ minutes for Claude Code to finish.

      Sounds like you're limiting yourself to users who are comfortable paying 100-200$ monthly subscription or even thousands per month for API prices.

      C.C. is expensive but i was hoping we weren't going to build tooling that exacerbated this issue simply because for some of us money is less of an issue than for most of us.

      • jbentley14 days ago
        If you are paying a senior engineer 200k, getting them a CC max plan is equivalent to 1.2% of their salary. I would say that it increases productivity by a lot more than that.

        So yes it might feel expensive in terms of a personal monthly budget, but the value for money is insane.

    • data-ottawa4 days ago
      I was just reading the Claude Code recommending that approach this morning.

      Having a nice way to manage the work trees sounds great, but the rate limiting still sounds like an issue to this approach.

      https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/claude-code/common-workfl...

      • mikojan4 days ago
        Rate limiting has not been a problem for me. I need time to review the proposals, the actual source code and to meddle with it in between

        One must also always be aware that an LLM WILL ALWAYS DO what you ask it for. Often you ask for the wrong thing. And you need to rethink.

        Maybe I am inefficient though I really only use at the most two additional work trees at the same time.

        • brulard4 days ago
          > ... LLM WILL ALWAYS DO what you ask it for.

          What? That's not my experience at all. Especially not "always"

          • mikojan3 days ago
            Yes, yes they do. If you ask it to refactor something and integrate it somewhere else; it will do exactly that even if in the course of it you would find that that would dramatically increase complexity not reduce it.

            I cannot count how many times that or something like that has happened to me.

            • brulard3 days ago
              Most of the time, maybe. Absolutely not always. I'll tell it to "implement feature a, ignore typescript errors". And it happened multiple times for me that it did the exact opposite, fix TS errors, and feature is barely mentioned in the response. Or more recently (with deep research) "Give me list of {some_product_name}, make absolutely sure to make a CSV and output a CSV. Columns are a,b,c,..". Does it give me the data? No, I get a wall of text with absolutely no data. Ok, you may argue this is some agent, etc. but user may not see a difference.

              Don't take me wrong, I'm a big fan and constant user of all these things, but I would say it frequently have problem following prompts.

            • Paradigma113 days ago
              Or reduce complexity: https://xkcd.com/221/
      • jbentley14 days ago
        If I hit the rate limit in 2 hours and got value out of each prompt I ran, that's better than doing the same amount of work in 6 hours and not hitting the limit.

        Personally, I'm running 2 accounts and switching between them for maximum productivity. Just as a function of what my time is worth it is a no brainer.

    • jbentley14 days ago
      While I seem to have a little attention from this comment, if anyone can test this Linux installer for Crystal and tell me if it works on their machine I would appreciate it:

      https://github.com/stravu/crystal/actions/runs/15791009893/a...

      • ninthaccountshn4 days ago
        Basics are working on arch with the AppImage, anything specific?
        • jbentley14 days ago
          If you can call Claude Code that means everything else should be working, as most functionality is built around the terminal and that is how it is calling Claude Code.

          Thanks for your help, now I'll be able to include Linux support in my next release

    • smrtinsert4 days ago
      What tasks require parallel workflows like this? Running one claude prompt gives me more than enough to chew on for several hours if done correctly.
    • 4b11b44 days ago
      Seems like Amp would plug into this better? At least regarding the ability for sharing prompts, etc.
    • artursapek4 days ago
      When I try to run two CCs at once I quickly get 429 rate limited, even on the $200 plan
      • andy_ppp4 days ago
        Maybe the UI should allow you to still ask questions but in a queue to prevent this. It could have informative text like “waiting on 3 previous questions” and a progress bar of some kind.
      • jbentley14 days ago
        Weird, I have not had this issue and I commonly run 5+ at once
    • lbeurerkellner4 days ago
      This looks really cool, thanks for sharing.
  • bicx4 days ago
    What I'd like:

    - Top-tier `git worktree`-based context switching in the same IDE window.

    - A framework for attaching terminal-based agents to each worktree branch. Eventually this should evolve into a better open protocol for integration, primarily for diffs, permission request notifications, and progress indicators.

    - A sidebar that monitors agent status/notifications on each active worktree branch.

    - A quick notification-style way of responding to agent prompts across all branches. This has been built in standalone agent manager tools, but I can't use those tools effectively when I need to quickly jump in and be an engineer.

    - Branch-context-level association with browser test windows or mobile emulator/simulator instances.

    - Strong code completion capabilities via other faster models, a great extension ecosystem with lots of language server support, and function as a high-quality IDE.

    Right now, I'm managing multiple macOS desktops with different instances of Windsurf running Claude agents in-terminal, and web browser windows / mobile emulators/simulators are dragged into the respective desktops for each instance. It's clunky.

    • visarga4 days ago
      What I'd like - a coding agent with debugging capabilities. Walk the stack, inspect local variables and arguments, basically seeing what is really happening as opposed to debugging by prints and asserts.
    • kordlessagain4 days ago
      > A quick notification-style way of responding to agent prompts across all branches. This has been built in standalone agent manager tools, but I can't use those tools effectively when I need to quickly jump in and be an engineer.

      I tried, unsuccessfully, to write a plugin for VSCode that would let Claude run a tool to jump me to the file and line it was editing. It sorta worked but kept hanging.

  • dewey4 days ago
    What’s the actual difference between Cursor and Claude Code these days? I’ve used both and then just switched to Cursor because the company paid for it…but except the cli vs UI difference I couldn’t really spot any big differences as both did multi-file edits.

    The current state of having multiple editors open, or having to switch between JetBrains stuff and Cursor is really a bit of an annoying transition period (I hope).

    • kissgyorgy4 days ago
      The difference is huge, not even close both in quality and usage.

      Claude Code is fully agentic, meaning you give it a task and fully implements everything, produces surprisingly good, working code. Can test, commit, run commands, log in to remote system, debug anything.

      It doesn't optimise for token usage, which Cursor heavily do, that's why it can produce higher quality code on first shots (the downside is that the cost is very high)

      Cursor's agent mode is very much in it's infrantry just catching up, but Cursor is essentially a tool for editing files, but Claude Code is like a junior developer.

      • jen729w4 days ago
        This does Cursor a disservice by not mentioning its deep integration.

        Cursor will suggest and complete code for you inline. You just tab-complete your way to a written function. It's mad.

        Claude Code doesn't do this.

        Cursor also has much better awareness of TypeScript. It'll fix errors as they occur, and you can right-click an issue and have it fixed.

        Contrast with CC where I've had to specify in CLAUDE.md to "NEVER EVER leave me with TS errors", and to do this it runs a CLI check using its integration, taking way longer to do the same thing.

        • stpedgwdgfhgdd4 days ago
          Fwiiw

          I noticed that CC’s generated Go code nowadays is very solid. No hallucination recently that i can remember or struck me. I do see youtube videos of people working with js/ts still struggling with this. Which is odd, there is way more training material for the latter. Perhaps the simplicity of Go shines here.

          CC might generate Go code for which there are already library functions present. So thorough code reviews are a necessity.

          • int_19h3 days ago
            Modern idiomatic JavaScript and TypeScript encourage "clever" code. The latter also has a very complicated type system, which, again, is frequently used, especially in .d.ts files for pure JS libraries because JS devs love tricks like functions doing different things based on number and type of arguments. So models learn all that from the training set, but then often can't deal with the complexity they themselves introduce.

            Much as I dislike Go, it is indeed probably closer to the ideal language for the LLM. But I suspect that we need to dial it down even further, e.g. no type inference whatsoever (so no := etc). In fact I wonder if forcing the model to spell out the type of every subexpression as a type assertion might be beneficial due to the way LLMs work, for the same reason why prompting for explicit chain-of-thought improves outputs even with models not specifically trained to produce CoT. In the similar vein, it could require fully qualified names for all library functions etc. But it also needs to have fewer footguns, which Go has aplenty - possible to ignore error returns, concurrency is unsafe etc. I suspect message passing a la Erlang might be the best bet there but this is just a gut feel.

            Of course, the problem with any hypothetical new PL optimized for LLMs is that there's no training data for it. To some extent this can be mitigated by mechanically converting existing code - e.g. mandatory fully qualified names and explicit type assertions for subexpressions could be easily bolted onto any existing statically typed language.

        • pbedat4 days ago
          The CC vscode plugin can also fetch the errors and warnings reported to vscode by other plugins and language Servers, making the additional compile step obsolete
        • anaisbetts4 days ago
          That's the biggest reason that the IDE plugin exists, so that Claude Code can get access to the LSP information
          • jen729w4 days ago
            Right. Which it can. But to suggest that this makes it Cursor-like is wildly misrepresentative.
        • etothet4 days ago
          This is precisely what the CC extension does, no? At least that’s how the extension behaves in JetBrains IDEs.
          • jen729w4 days ago
            Nope. It allows the CLI to read and parse your files. It absolutely does not give you Cursor-like interactivity.

            If I’m wrong I’d be overjoyed! But I have it installed and have seen no hint of this.

            • anaisbetts4 days ago
              It doesn't give you a Cursor-like experience but it gives Claude Code the LSP info, which means it will make less mistakes, especially with TypeScript
              • gorbypark4 days ago
                I started a new project to test out CC and constantly find I have to ask it to fix ts errors…it’s nice I don’t have to tell it what error it is (ie “fix the ts errors in file.tsx”) but I’m surprised it doesn’t have a “check ts” step automatically (i even added something to CLAUDE.md, which seems to work sometimes, but not always). It’s especially bad when working with recently updated libraries. It keeps suggesting thing that don’t exist anymore even though ts clearly knows it’s wrong.

                Otherwise CC has been stellar and I live it’s a CLI + optional vs code extension.

            • etothet3 days ago
              I’ve used Cursor a good deal and also CC. The CC JetBrain extension replaces my code in the IDE, shows me a preview ans allows me to confirm, decline, etc. Am I missing something super specific about Cursor’s behavior? It doesn’t seem that practically different to me.
        • Taylor_OD4 days ago
          Copilot in vscode is so bad about typescript errors as well.
      • randomtoast4 days ago
        You mentioned that Claude Code is fully agentic.

        I am using the Cursor agent mode, which can run in auto mode with, let's say, 50 consecutive tool calls, along with editing and other tasks. It can operate autonomously for 30 minutes and complete a given task. I haven't tried Claude Code yet, but I'm curious—what exactly does Claude Code do differently compared to the Cursor agent?

        Is the improvement in diff quality solely because Cursor limits the context size, or are there other factors involved?

        • dtech4 days ago
          I'd suggest to just give it a shot and notice the difference, it's night and day.

          I couldn't get cursor agent to do useful stuff for me - might be because I don't do TS or Python - and Claude Code was a big productivity boost almost from day one. You just tell it to do stuff, and it just... does it. At like the level of a college student.

          • brulard4 days ago
            I'm writing TS and I was not very happy with Cursor - I expected more coming from using Cline + Sonnet in VS Code. I tried the composer or how do they call it, and the results were mediocre. After few hours of struggling I gave up and returned to Cline. Now with Claude Code I got much more value right from the start. I don't know, maybe I was "holding it wrong".
            • int_19h3 days ago
              Cursor does a lot of trickery to reduce context size, since they ultimately have to pay per token even if you pay them a flat fee. Cline, on the other hand, is quite profligate with context, but the results are correspondingly better, especially when paired with Gemini due to its large max context.
      • chrisweekly4 days ago
        "infrantry"

        I think you meant "infancy"

      • posix864 days ago
        Not sure what you mean, cursor has agents, that run in feedback cycles, checking e.g syntax errors before continuing, reflecting, working for minutes if need be, can execute commands in your terminal, check any file it wants. What can cc do that cursor can't, at least in theory?
        • SparkyMcUnicorn3 days ago
          I've had Claude Code run for many hours, and also let it manage its own sub-agents. Productively.

          Coming back to an implementation that has good test coverage, functions exactly as specified, and is basically production-ready is achievable through planning/specs.

          Maybe Cursor can do this now as well, but it was just so far behind last time I tried it.

      • SV_BubbleTime4 days ago
        > but Claude Code is like a junior developer.

        This has been exactly my experience. I guess one slightly interesting thing is that my “junior developer” here will get better with time, but not because of me.

      • 20wenty4 days ago
        Do you have details on what "optimise for token usage" looks like in Cursor? Or is your point more about how Cursor manages the context window?
      • cle4 days ago
        Cursor does all that stuff too perfectly fine.
    • kajecounterhack4 days ago
      A lot of people use them together (cursor for IDE and claude code in the terminal inside the IDE).

      In terms of performance, their agents differ. The base model their agents use are the same, but for example how they look at your codebase or decide to farm tasks out to lesser models, and how they connect to tools all differ.

    • razemio4 days ago
      What are you doing that you do not feel a difference? Claude is superior for me in every single way. It is not even close. I mainly use scala, python, js and dart. Maybe curser is better with other languages? I can use claude to be a very productive assistant. Especially useful for small to medium changes. If I plan accordingly it is like magic. It tends to duplicate code but that us about it. Code produced by cursor needs alot of work the last time I tried. Often slowing me down instead of helping.
      • derwiki4 days ago
        Anecdata, but Cursor does fine for me with Ruby on Rails
    • chrsw4 days ago
      Claude Code is very impressive. It almost feels like another programmer sitting there with you in your terminal. It's not perfect and usually needs help understanding what you're trying to do but once all the pieces are in place and it gets going it's incredible. I'm not even using it properly in terms of giving it the right context it needs to truly understand my project. And I'm not using it for TypeScript or even any web development.
    • garychalmers4 days ago
      Cursor forces you to switch to a different IDE (unless you'are already using VSCode), while Cloude-Code (or Aider) is simply a terminal that works in parallel to your current IDE, editing directly your project files. In my case the "IDE" is vim+tmux+bash and I prefer CLI assistants, but this applies also to people that uses a graphical IDE different from VSCode.
      • brulard4 days ago
        Doesn't it force you to switch to different IDE even when using VSCode? It's separate editor, right? At least that's how I used it. If it was just an extension, like this one, it would work so much better for me.
        • chrisweekly4 days ago
          I know that some VSC users use Cursor for inline edits (in the main IDE UX), and also use CC in VSC's integrated terminal.
    • khaledh4 days ago
      One feature that is still exclusive to Cursor is the Cursor Tab feature. It almost always accurately predicts your next edit with high accuracy, based on your recent edits and cursor navigation.

      But from an agent perspective, Claude Code is much more tuned to understanding the task, breaking it down into small steps, and executing those steps with precision.

      Overall, IMO agentic coding is great for well defined tasks, especially when they're backed by tests. It still lacks though in deep technical discussions and being opinionated about architectural decisions, unless specifically nudged in a certain direction. This is an area where Gemini Pro excels at, but it sucks at as a coding agent. So I use both: Gemini Pro for high-level picture design, and Claude Code for executing the plan by giving it clear requirements. All while making some edits myself using Cursor Tab.

    • nsingh24 days ago
      One thing with Cursor is that you can use other non-anthropic models like o3 or Gemini. I've found o3 more useful for cracking localized difficult problems, and Gemini for large context refactoring.
  • 23b4 days ago
    Is there an advantage to this setup over using VSCode Copilot in Agent mode with Claude Sonnet 3.7 or 4? What am I missing out on?
    • mmaunder4 days ago
      You have to try and experience claude code to answer this question. Otherwise it's just going to be a pointless debate here. If you live in a linux terminal you're going to be instantly addicted. Make sure you read the docs. Use a CLAUDE.md, create planning docs for big tasks in markup format, iterate on the planning doc until you're happy then get it to implement. And also use the technique of, as you approach the context limit have it write its memory to a file, /clear and then read that file back in. This gives you better mileage.
      • mertysn3 days ago
        How can you keep track of the current context limit if you are on Claude Pro or Max? I'm used to their desktop app for MCP use and there is no way to tell until the end-of-the-road popup shows up.
    • brulard4 days ago
      I couldn't get Copilot agent mode to work with Playwright MCP. It was installed, it appeared in the tools selection config, but copilot insists it doesn't have access to any of its functions.
      • Paradigma113 days ago
        What happens if you type:

        #browser_navigate https://news.ycombinator.com/

        I had to do some installing and setup to get playwright to work. Now, how to get the agent to use the working playwright on its own is a different matter.

      • upcoming-sesame4 days ago
        I was able to have it work with Playwright but many times it doesn't figure out that it needs to use the playwright MCP tool and instead tries to use curl or something else
      • westonmyers4 days ago
        Which model? I had Claude Sonnet agent running Playwright just yesterday.
        • brulard4 days ago
          Why would model affect the ability to use tools? I just tried sonnet 4, 3.7 and gpt 4.1 without luck. Playwright opens fine from other tools where i configured it.
          • mh-4 days ago
            Someone more knowledgeable on how these LLMs are trained and fine-tuned can weigh in, but it absolutely does matter. Some models are much more "willing" to use tools (and more adept at discerning when to use them) than others.

            I can't comment on why you're having this issue specifically, unfortunately.

            • brulard2 days ago
              yeah, this was not about eagerness to use a tool. It specifically listed available tools and functions and insisted it can not access this playwright related ones.
              • mh-2 days ago
                As I readily admit in my parent comment, I'm not an expert on the tool-calling mechanics. But from other threads, my understanding is it can be a manifestation of the same issue. I know that's not really helpful to you, just wanted to call out that switching models can alter this behavior.

                Hopefully you got it worked out by now?

  • Taylor_OD4 days ago
    Thank god. I was shocked that there wasnt a bigger outrage last week when github decided that copilot was going to have premium request limits. I'm guessing we will see a much larger outcry when people hit their request limit a week into this month/billing period.

    Glad there is some competition.

    • cedws2 days ago
      I cancelled my Copilot subscription after years of use. I don’t like having something taken away from me and still having to pay the same price. I also don’t want to be mentally penny counting every time I hit enter.
    • rafaelmn4 days ago
      Lol Claude code will burn through 10$ in a task.
      • golly_ned4 days ago
        It's practically unlimited usage with $100 or $200 subscription. Given prices elsewhere now I don't see how this is viable longer-run and not heavily subsidized by losses in anthropic
  • ewuhic4 days ago
    Tangent, but does anyone use Roo for VSCode? And does browser in Roo work with Claude provided by GitHub copilot?
  • peter-m804 days ago
    is there any benefit of using this instead of copilot agent mode with claude backend?
    • monsieurbanana4 days ago
      This comment from elsewhere in this thread applies to vscode copilot as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44353972
    • 8thcross4 days ago
      Been using it for a couple days - The integration fixed the gap that required me to open the files for viewing updates, and changes made in real-time as compared to the terminal mode, which did things behind the scenes, and you had no idea what its doing. the series of nonsensical (but funny) names (Pondering, Twerking, Juggling, etc.) it gives are not useful after its initial fancy wears off..
  • jasonthorsness4 days ago
    Diff viewing! My workflow has been terminals with Claude Code on the left and vscode on the right pretty much just for diffs; maybe this can replace that.
  • coreyh144444 days ago
    AFAIK, this gets auto-installed when you launch Claude Code inside of VSCode (or Cursor) so no need to seek it out and install it this way, right?
    • pxc4 days ago
      > this gets auto-installed when you launch Claude Code inside of VSCode

      Is it just me, or does that seem really invasive?

    • khaledh4 days ago
      Correct. From the extension web page:

          Auto-installation: When you launch Claude Code from within VSCode’s terminal, it automatically detects and installs the extension
  • jdmoreira4 days ago
    Now this I'm excited about, Claude Code for Jetbrains! https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/27310-claude-code-beta-
    • martypitt4 days ago
      Unsure why this is getting downvoted -- I'm equally excited to see this - thanks for sharing.
  • yomismoaqui4 days ago
    How does this compares to Amp (https://ampcode.com) a similar offering from Sourcegraph? (it also has a VSCode extension)

    Yesterday I burned 15€ (10€ free credit) trying Amp and I gotta said I was impressed.

    The next few years are going to be interesting.

  • b0a04gl4 days ago
    how our workflow starts changing when we realize it can hold multi step intent. l we stop thinking file by file. we start thinking in actions. "split this module, write tests, refactor callers" becomes a single unit in out head because Claude understands that as a unit too( maximum efforts mode ).

    this slowly rewires how we approach code. we stop worrying about syntax early, we write more scaffolds, we batch tasks more. subtle shift but huge long term effect.

    how soon before we start designing codebases for LLM agents to navigate more cleanly? flat structures, less indirection, more declarative metadata

    • yomismoaqui4 days ago
      > how soon before we start designing codebases for LLM agents to navigate more cleanly? flat structures, less indirection, more declarative metadata

      This is something that I have been mulling over since I heard reports that LLMs work very well with languages like Go (explicit static typing, simple syntax, only 1 way to do things...)

      Seems like with humans, the less we have to worry about the incidental complexity imposed by the tools we are using (language, framework, lib...) the more brain bandwidth we have available to use to solve a problem with code.

      • Paradigma113 days ago
        I think we might see rising popularity of languages that give you more tools to make illegal state unrepresentable. While it is great that there is so much python/js code that a LLM knows to avoid wide stretches of wrong terrain, but who cares if you can just use a language that makes that impossible in the first place.

        Maybe something like https://flix.dev/ with many analyzers.

    • kissgyorgy4 days ago
      > how soon before we start designing codebases for LLM agents to navigate more cleanly?

      It's already happening. Armin Ronacher started writing more Go code instead of Python because it understand it better. My coworker changed writing a Desktop app in Rust, because it can navigate it better because of better tooling and type system.

      People already thinking about how to write documentation for AI instead of other people, etc.

  • kissgyorgy4 days ago
    This was already installed when you ran Claude Code in a VSCode terminal, I guess the difference is that now it's explicitly listed on the VSCode Marketplace.
    • world2vec4 days ago
      From the extension's page:

      Features:

      - Auto-installation: When you launch Claude Code from within VSCode’s terminal, it automatically detects and installs the extension

      - Selection context: Selected text in the editor is automatically added to Claude’s context

      - Diff viewing: Code changes can be displayed directly in VSCode’s diff viewer instead of the terminal

      - Keyboard shortcuts: Support for shortcuts like Alt+Cmd+K to push selected code into Claude’s prompt

      - Tab awareness: Claude can see which files you have open in the editor

      - Configuration: Set diff tool to auto in /config to enable IDE integration features

    • ttoinou4 days ago
      It was slightly buggy it was uninstalled itself sometimes. I hope this will be better now with this official extension
    • dezmou4 days ago
      So I won't get anything more that the file compare that appear when claude in terminal ask to modify a file ?
      • kissgyorgy4 days ago
        You can select lines, which will be added to the context (can't do that from the console), it can show the edited files in the VSCode editor, not just in the terminal.
      • dezmou4 days ago
        The extension say "Tab awareness: Claude can see which files you have open in the editor" I don't know how to activate this, it would help me to not have to CD in the terminal each time
        • dezmou4 days ago
          Ok so I tested it by CD into a directory, and open a file from another directory, create an empty function and selecting the function in the editor, and asking claude to just "fill the function" it knew which text was selected in which file and filled the function, this will gain me some time
  • fritzo4 days ago
    One thing I prefer about Cursor is that it stores and manages the long prompts I enter. I abandoned Claude Code after I typed in a long paragraph of prompt then accidentally hit an arrow key and lost all my prompt-writing work. Prompts are valuable, and Cursor treats them as valuable, whereas Claude Code seems to expect throw-away one-liners.

    Has this been fixed? Does the vscode Claude Code plugin retain prompts more reliably?

    • kordlessagain4 days ago
      I use Claude Desktop to write the plan (the prompt) and then tell Claude Code to read that file to do heavy lifting. If I'm working on several projects at once, I open multiple WSL based Claudes. In Claude Desktop, I have several tools I've vibed which manage context and notes for the projects: https://github.com/kordless/gnosis-evolve

      I did try to get Claude Desktop to send comms to Claude Code, but got stuck on a few things related to the terminal emulation in Windows.

      I have session list, load, and save tools. If a character is embodied that is working on a project, that goes in the session information and the character is loaded (embodied) when you start a new session. Making characters is done with the character generator tool, which strongly randomizes traits. Traits can related to ability (or inability) to run tools. Why have a personality in the AI? Because it keeps it fun and changes the tone of the code commenting and planning. And it affects tool runs...

      > We are Groot! completely deadpan delivery while already analyzing the situation

      There are notes on projects (folders) and any files it created for planning usually goes in /notes in the folder.

      Claude Code does have some ability to save sessions, but I don't edit it much myself. That would be a better job for Claude Desktop.

    • SV_BubbleTime4 days ago
      In Claude if you write something and hit the arrow and it’s gone, you’ve hit the other arrow when it comes back.

      If I remember correctly, this is even true between instances of Claude on the same terminal.

      I am in a container, so if I close rebuild my container obviously that’s gone.

      • Taylor_OD4 days ago
        Yeah, up will go to the previous prompt. Down will go back to the "current" one, right?
    • topek4 days ago
      You can also resume previous conversations. --resume and --continue are your friends
  • zackify4 days ago
    Seems like this is the exact same extension that’s been in use but it’s just now publicly on the extension marketplace.
  • basemi4 days ago
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  • nithril4 days ago
    VSCode is really the primary platform for AI/agentic plugins, receiving priority over other IDEs such as IntelliJ, this is understandable as it is free, supporting many languages, and really good.

    As a long-time IntelliJ user, I’m beginning to question whether it still makes sense to remain on this platform.

    Perhaps I’m too impatient and agentic plugins may reach parity on IntelliJ within a year but a year is quite a long time to wait in this really fast-evolving landscape.

    The intellij plugin in beta: https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/27310-claude-code-beta-...

    • e1g4 days ago
      While your observation is generally true, and I share your overall concern about my IDE of choice, in this specific example it doesn’t apply as the Claude Code plugin for IntelliJ offers exactly the same integration as their plugin for VSCode.
      • nithril4 days ago
        Is your affirmation based on a testing of both plugin? I'm genuily wondering the plugin quality as IntelliJ plugin is still in beta and the VScode one not
        • e1g4 days ago
          I use IntelliJ (WebStorm) as my daily driver, and Claude Code is an integral part of my workflow. I didn’t check VSCode specifically, but I did read the link to that extension - everything they describe is precisely how the Claude Code works within WebStorm (despite being labeled “Beta”)
          • nithril4 days ago
            Appreciate your input, but if you haven’t actually tested the VSCode integration, it’s hard to compare. Reading a feature list isn’t the same as using the tool.
            • e1g4 days ago
              Okay, I just tried the Claude Code extension in VSCode - the experience is 100% identical to how it works within IntelliJ, even using the same icons and shortcuts to turn it on/off.
    • dmicah4 days ago
      Anthropic also has a Claude Code plug-in for JetBrains IDEs: https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/27310-claude-code-beta-
      • mdaniel4 days ago
        Did you just reply to a comment about a link with a comment with the same link?
    • mdaniel4 days ago
      > this is understandable as it is free, supporting many languages, and really good.

      IntelliJ and PyCharm are both Apache 2, IntelliJ for sure supports many languages, and I'll keep the commentary about the last item to myself

    • brulard4 days ago
      I was using webstorm some years ago, but after the switch to VS Code I never looked back. For me at least it was very laggy, UI bloated, and autocomplete would be unreliable for me due to constant "indexing".
    • esafak4 days ago
      Junie works
      • nithril4 days ago
        Not comparable.

        I did test VSCode and IntelliJ on agentic, MCP, and IntelliJ is for the moment far behind.

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  • bionhoward4 days ago
    I always get blocked in using Claude Code by basic logic

    What are you building that doesn’t compete with Anthropic? (Using your brain competes with Anthropic) — major legal risk

    How do we justify accepting the lack of privacy on Claude? Is it just for people doing FOSS? You’re cool with them reading your business codebase to verify you aren’t using your brain?

    Given it is logically impossible to not compete with general intelligence, and that I expect private github repos to remain private, I feel forced to think Claude Code is a nerd snipe / bad joke / toy

    • kordlessagain4 days ago
      The solution is simple: understand what the tool actually does before declaring it impossible to use. But then again, reading documentation requires... what's the word... effort.

      Claude Code stores feedback transcripts for only 30 days and has "clear policies against using feedback for model training":

        Privacy safeguards
        We have implemented several safeguards to protect your data, including limited retention periods for sensitive information, restricted access to user session data, and clear policies against using feedback for model training.
    • barrkel4 days ago
      What is the lack of privacy on Claude Code? Aren't Pro and API both private and not used for training?
      • psi_chi_phi4 days ago
        That is also my understanding. They would never have any corporate clients if they were stealing and training on all of their paid queries.