1: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-ios/issues/5198
I want to like Orion but I've seen the same bugs for a year now.
1: You can long tap and select "Download Linked File" on any link in Safari, including links that are forbidden by Content Restrictions, such as a news.ycombinator.com link from google search. Ping me if a Safari engineer sees this and fixes it!
I run three firefox plugins. They all work correctly.
1. I still see cookie notice
2. I open uBlock and it says "blocked on this page: 0"
That's "doesn't work" for me.
That being said, after being my daily driver for almost a year, I went back to safari about a month ago with Wipr. 3x speedup and battery efficiency. Unfortunately, it became buggier instead of less buggy :(
Still use it on mac tho - vertical tabs are a game-changer.
UPD: Somehow installing indie wiki extension second time (without deleting it, just pressing "add to orion" a second time) partially fixed it. Redirects now works, banners are broken, showing "visit $destination$ instead"
even without the bugs, after everything we’ve been through with crazy shit from closed sourced browser companies, the last thing i’d install would be orion/kagi. lol nuh uh.
not a chance i’d trust an ai company with almost the entirety of my online existence—especially when they close off and hide what they’re doing.
If you’re an open source or non-profit diehard then yes, it’s not that, but as far as closed source for-profit businesses go, they’re a lot better than most. They are a public benefit corporation that has rejected VC funding, and their main pitch is aligning user and company benefit, despite the mainstream currently railing against it.
I’m not affiliated, just a user.
I use it as a daily driver on macOS. Not noticing the bugs anymore.
Plus, I want blocking when I'm outside of my house. I don't always want to run everything through Tailscale and Apple doesn't always make that easy. It'll turn off your VPN quite frequently...
(and has integrated ad blocker that is "good enough" for all practical purposes)
I thought Orion is made by Kagi?
https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/assistant.html
I don't think I'd have called them an AI company on that basis any more than I'd call JetBrains an AI company for the same reason. But I can see why someone might call them that.
iOS "Firefox" shouldn't be a thing in the first place - definitely not with such a misleading name.
https://apps.apple.com/au/app/1blocker-ad-blocker/id13655310...
One of the nice things for developers working in the Apple ecosystem is that users are willing to support well crafted software.
Although, sometimes you do run into developers as selfless as Gorhill who still craft excellent software.
Also: what would be "additional value" in an adblocker? Either it works or it doesn't.
uBlock has over 13k commits, include just 15 minutes ago right now.
Gorhill's browser extensions are great, have actual features. This isn't possible in iOS.
Does he? Is he doing original research, or just copying whatever ublock origin/easylist puts out? After all, all the bypass methods are just javascript snippets that extensions inject into the page, so it's not like you have to spend much time porting to iOS or whatever.
Or paying $15 for a year of someone keeping a content blocker up to date.
Maybe you are completely desynchronized from what people find valuable.
That you start valuing software at $0 because someone is producing it for free is a sad part of open source.
If your time has so little value, please do create an alternative and offer the same level of support and updates for a price that seems more fair to you. $0.50/month maybe?
This thread is literally about someone providing a free alternative.
Revenue optimisation is a different concern. Would they sell more if they priced it at $10? Maybe. Would the total revenue ($10 * number of users) be higher than now? Maybe not. There is a local maxima and it appears that they calculated this to be ~$15.
adguard is free and I don't think I've encountered an ad that it didn't block. There's also open source adblockers like ublock origin lite, and some other one that was mentioned earlier this year but I forgot the name of.
Yet not "every user has switched to these free products". Apparently the consumers don't feel the same way as yourself, or they are not aware of those options (marketing costs, too). Hence (quoting myself):
> A product justifies its price tag as long as people are willing to buy it at that price.
I'm not a 1Blocker user, but 1Blocker definitely doesn't have to price match anyone else if their customers are happy to pay despite there are many free options.
You can only enable one filter list, but "Ads" is a single filter list, so I just enabled that. Just means I can't enable the "Trackers" (though safari has some built in tracker blocking) or "Annoyances" lists, or add Custom rules.
Though, it's going to be a deal-breaker for anyone outside of the English speaking world, because the regional filters count as a second list.
Opened a private tab and navigated to youtube.com - got cookie consent regardless.
Closed every app, restarted safari fully - same results. Same on google maps.
Uninstalled.
Is it? I don’t see any maintainer activity is the past six months.
I’ve heard it’s best to avoid running both but unsure whether this version of uBlock is worth it.
If I did have to trust any adblocker though, it would be gorhill's.
I'm not sure why, but uBO Lite randomly stops working at times. I've had to fire up the test page (https://ublockorigin.github.io/uBOL-home/tests/test-filters....) many times after enabling experimental filters, but it just doesn't seem to "stick."
Relevant post on the topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/Adguard/comments/1lgxza0/seeking_cl...
That’s enough for me to not use Adguard, but wanted to clarify so others can make their own decision
Just build your own copy, give apple $100/year for a developer license, move to a country in the EU, and then you can "sideload" this open-source code onto your device. You also need something running macOS.
Nothing wrong with either, but damn the value equation is out of wack to me, it's just so worth it.
To wit:
It is 2025 and you cannot configure a DoH endpoint in Safari on either iOS or OSX.
Further, enabling DoH in iOS involves an experts-only plist file download which has many esoteric failure modes that are difficult to track and have poor (nonexistent ?) documentation.
Finally, any regular person (like my wife) will have an almost immediate need to toggle adblocking DNS on and off for (weird site that breaks) but, of course, that is not possible without going through the entire plist file workflow twice (once to remove (not disable) the existing profile and once to re-download it).
Ridiculous. Embarrassing.
I appreciate your help but I'm not downloading some rando app to set a DNS server.
Your child is getting flagged/downvoted for pointing out that Android has actual DNS settings and that person is correct.
Now you have the extension built, and you have two options for getting it onto your device:
1. Pay $100/year for a developer license, create your own testflight for yourself and your friends, upload it, there you go
Or
2. Move to a european country to enable side-loading, pay $100/year for a developer license so you can sign it, and then sign + sideload it. (it's not really true sideloading, but if you're in the EU you can at least do it without testflight https://doesioshavesideloadingyet.com/ )
Oh, also, if you don't have a mac of some sort, you'll have to buy one. A mac mini is pretty cheap.
You can also buy an android device and install any extension on firefox-for-android for free without paying apple, or anyone, $100/year.
https://www.twilio.com/en-us/blog/developers/tutorials/build..., and enable “Developer Mode” in your phone’s settings.
You can run altstore on a machine on your network, or reprovision on the device itself to re-sign the app mostly automatically. The latter does use one of your account's five free app slots though.