51 pointsby impish92089 hours ago8 comments
  • qingcharles2 hours ago
    Buy Samsung instead? They are a foreign corp that makes their products in Korea, so they only currently have 10% tariffs added. They didn't pay a million dollar donation to the inauguration fund, either.
  • jqpabc1239 hours ago
    The only logical choice for Apple is to pay the 25% tariff.

    And the only logical choice for consumers/voters is to decide if they want to support this "tax" and by extension, it's proponent.

    The simple fact is that we now live in an interconnected world. It is simply not possible or practical to natively produce everything that goes into an iPhone. Not now, not within the decades to come and probably not ever.

    And decrees from the fuhrer and pining for yesteryear won't change this.

    • boroboro43 hours ago
      > The simple fact is that we now live in an interconnected world. It is simply not possible or practical to natively produce everything that goes into an iPhone.

      US is a huge country with tremendous human capital and natural resources. I don’t see issues with US producing much more goods than it is producing now. It might be not practical, or not practical yet, but it’s for sure possible.

      • watwut2 hours ago
        The US will need to crash its own economy and create underclass of people with no better employment options first to make it reasonable.

        It is working on for sure, but not there yet. It still have too low unemployment rates for these potential jobs to become cheap enough.

        • xp843 minutes ago
          It's not even about the supposedly cheap labor. China has built very advanced automated assembly plants, and has a whole supply chain which provides most of the parts needed. Either we have to, at great expense, replicate that whole supply chain here, or we have to import the parts at great, tariffed, cost anyway and only do final assembly. While this would save money since I guess then the tariff is only on the BOM and not Apple's legendary margin, it would still massively inflate the cost. Why do "Republicans" love high taxes so much now?

          This seems so stupid because we don't really need every continent to have a very complex and expensive supply chain for tiny electronic components when boats and money both exist, but let's say you disagree on that.

          On what earth does it make sense to tariff smartphones in 2025 with zero warning? It would take ten years to fully construct a completely domestic supply chain for iPhones if you started today. So why not announce a tariff that starts in 10 years, so that that can be built, but we don't burden all Americans with this high tax on something everyone buys?

          (Answer: Everybody knows Trump and Navarro will be dead in 10 years and that anyone else would cancel this dumbass idea and replace it with policy that isn't so idiotic and self-defeating.)

      • lawn3 hours ago
        Not at this price point it's not.
    • AnimalMuppet9 hours ago
      No, the only logical choice for Apple is to go to court to block this random act of executive over-reach. The president does not have the constitutional authority to impose random tariffs on individual companies.
      • jqpabc1239 hours ago
        Haven't you heard, the law no longer applies. He has been anointed with immunity.
        • bangertho8 hours ago
          All Presidents have.

          A future President could have the entire admin thrown out of a plane on the way to El Salvador as an official act of national security.

          I can dream.

    • tim333an hour ago
      Come on. In this modern world they must be able to bribe the president for less than that.
    • duxup9 hours ago
      I suspect Apple is concerned not just with the tariff, but the next tweet and the next…

      Tim already paid his bribe, https://variety.com/2025/digital/news/apple-ceo-tim-cook-don... and others who have cut deals with him have found those deals to be less than solid. Law firms that settled with Trump have reported that they've received demands well outside their agreements.

      • raincom6 hours ago
        In the third world, $1M is hardly considered as a bribe. For large contracts in the third world, companies pay 20% as bribe. That's why Benazir Bhutto's husband is called "Mr 10%". In India, regional parties rule many states; the big bosses there want 20%.
      • jqpabc1239 hours ago
        Concern is certainly understandable.

        The choice for Apple (and everyone) is how to respond effectively and appropriately.

        As it stands, the world economy is being subjected to the whims of one person. And this person has a checkered history with marketplace economics.

  • pr07ecH70r9 hours ago
    My son (who is 7 and knows already basic maths) can tell you that if a giant production like Apple moves to the US will cost at least 90% or even more to produce. This automatically will make them 110+% more expensive, which will destroy the demand. And who will pay?! The biggest market - USA (~43% as of 2024) Interesting who are the finance advisors of the guy in the white house?!? Good luck!
    • fragmede9 hours ago
      What's math for the 90% more number?
    • duxup9 hours ago
      > who are the finance advisors of the guy in the white house

      As far as we know there’s nobody with an education in this administration who is making any sensible argument why these random choices make sense / will produce.

      Everyone in the administration who takes questions are political appointees / politicians and they to a person eventually ignore any specific questions and then tell you how great Trump is. The press conferences are creepy at times.

      The little info that leaks out from insiders indicates Trump doesn’t take advice from even his own staff often and they are blindsided by tweets frequently.

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  • duxup9 hours ago
    I’m starting to think Trump thinks about as deeply about things as a tweet.
    • mdp20215 hours ago
      I think the above parent post will enter history textbooks.
  • belter9 hours ago
    So much energy spent, when all Apple would have to do, is buy the correct coins...or maybe that is the purpose all along.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-crypto-golf-club-dinner-...

  • Jsebast248 hours ago
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    • olalonde5 hours ago
      That’s a pretty skewed perspective. First, while China isn’t a democracy, it's not a "brutal communist dictatorship". It’s more accurately described as a one-party authoritarian state with a predominantly capitalist economy.

      Second, the people "in tents on the sidewalks with their lives numbed by drugs" are not there because they can't find a job at an Apple factory, not even close.

      Third, even if we go with the "China is evil, we have to help people out of poverty" narrative, what's wrong with India? It is a democracy and has a much greater poverty problem than the US.

    • IAmGraydon8 hours ago
      Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we're dealing with. Zero. Critical. Thought. This is the same kind of brainwashed lie that I keep seeing from Trump supporters everywhere. There seems to be absolutely zero self awareness, as if the very things they're saying don't actually enter into their consciousness for any kind of logical analysis. This guy has zero idea how idiotic what he just said is. He will go on to believe that all the downvotes are from those with "Trump Derangement Syndrome".

      Tell me, if the American workforce is living in tents and addled with drugs, give me some numbers. How many? And you think that we are going to do what? Make the homeless work in the iPhone factories? Is that what you're suggesting?

      • symlinkk7 hours ago
        Yeah that sounds like a good idea
        • owlbite6 hours ago
          I mean, we could just throw them in jail and then sell their labor back to giant corporate entities for a fraction of minimum wage.
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