Kevin Kelly, cofounder of WIRED, has spent the last 40 years observing how technology shifts, often before waves like VR, crypto, and the internet go mainstream. In this conversation, he talks about what that experience has taught him about predicting the future.

He shares why being early often means being wrong first, how studying history is key to spotting patterns, and why it's more important to stay curious than to be certain.

He also shares his idea of visiting the “frontier” of tech without losing your perspective, and why we still don’t fully understand what intelligence even is.

It’s a slower, more reflective conversation about how to think over the long term.

Watch here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-gXcRh4HVk

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