I'm gonna wait for a much better study reproducing this before I put any stock in it, personally.
There are multiple experiments with 82 total participants. One of those experiments does indeed have a sample size of 10.
Yup, this is still “wait and see”. For these kinds of papers my stance is: “cool read, I won’t click the share button”.
CTRL+SHIFT+I and in the console
let o, a=new AudioContext();
document.addEventListener("mousedown",function(){
if (o) {o.stop(); o = undefined}
else{ o=a.createOscillator(); o.type="sine"; o.frequency.value=100;
o.connect(a.destination);o.start()}
})
It would be completely bonkers for an antiemetic to commonly induce an emetic urge in any but rare exceptional cases.
Most seasickness drugs are just first-generation antihistamines sometimes combined with a caffeine analogue to counteract the sleepiness.
Dramamine/Gravol (dimenhydrinate) is just benadryl (diphenhydramine) plus the caffeine analogue theophylline.
Bonine/DramamineII (meclizine) is also a first-generation antihistamine.
Promethazine is also a first-generation antihistamine.
Non-antihistamine antiemetics like ondansetron or scopolamine transdermal patches require a prescription from a doctor and therefore aren't commonly used for motion sickness except for occupational seafarers. And it would still be absolutely stupid if the drugs given to prevent nausea commonly caused nausea.
See: antidepressants can increase suicidal ideation, cannabis (used for nausea) can cause nausea at higher doses, etc.
I think you're making the error of conflating probabilities here. It's not uncommon for drugs to have uncommon side effects, but those side effects are still uncommon. Every once in a while benadryl makes a person paradoxically excited, but most people who take benadryl get sleepy.
The nausea part. The person I'm replying to specifically said "queasy".
Anyway, if the researchers are not blinded there are many possible sources of errors.
Perhaps they do the first test in the morning, the sound just before lunch and the second test in the afternoon is made by another person that is more/less friendly to the rats, or the rats has the stomach more full/empty.
After changing a program and running benchmark, I sometimes run it again if the new program is not faster as I expected. I even gave a second chance to deterministic test, that is as useful as it sounds. It's possible that if the rat does not collaborate the researchers hit's the equivalent of Ctr-F5 just to be sure.
It's hard to be 100% neutral, so a method is to not know to ensure all rats have exactly the same test conditions.
Using the heavy hand of the state to threaten violence against people who make a particular tone... yes that is really so ridiculous.
The tone is question is quite close to G2. So, if your guitar is slightly sharp, you'll be making this tone when playing one of the most common chords.
It’s a registered trademark. A registered trademark is a legal designation that provides exclusive rights to a brand name, logo, or other distinctive symbol used to identify a specific product or service; they registered Spice Sound or whatever as a trademark.
They did not patent 100Hz.
You would only be liable if you walked around playing your sharp guitar with a sign that said “Get your Spice Sound here” heh
I’m not defending it, and it reminds me of that woman in Baltimore who pissed everyone off by trademarking “Hon”, causing the whole city to revolt against her.
But it’s far from “threatening violence,” and they’re not patenting the sound.
And what happens to you if you don’t abide by the legal protections of the trademark? The government must ultimately use violence or the threat of violence to enforce its rules.
So in this case I suppose they might be able to Trademark ’Antivomotone’ as a word mark to describe the tone, but no-one is going to be able to trademark the tone itself.
CVEs are almost a starting point of truth. The threats can be verified, tested against/for, etc.
They're also tied up in insurance liabilities.
If there are no CVEs, there will be no cyber security insurance.
Follow the rabbit hole.
> a unique sound called 'sound spice®'
Only at the very bottom of the release do they actually give any technical details:
> a pure tone at 100 Hz
The linked study gives more details:
> 1-min exposure to a pure tone of 80–85 dBZ (= 60.9–65.9 dBA) at 100 Hz
I took that to mean a simple sine wave. If it wasn't a sine wave, it would have additional, non-100 Hz components.
The idea that that's "unique" is laughable.
Just because a study tested only one particular point in a space does not mean only that point has whatever properties they found in the study.
So even if you say "This 100 Hz tone should be played for 2 minutes at 61 dBA, which is regular human speech levels", being able to actually get close to 61 dBA for a 100 Hz tone in real life, for an untrained ear, sounds pretty difficult.
But that’s fine, you can get an American made one for about ….hmm. Can’t seem to find one actually made in the USA that doesn’t say “contact us for a quote” or something like that.
I’m all for repatriating manufacturing, and a good plan might very well involve tariffs rolled in progressively over several years, giving businesses a predictable time table to shift supply chains and invest in manufacturing capacity to fill those gaps.
But all that has happened is the price of American innovation just went through the roof for small companies and startups, while big businesses will barely be affected because the cost of gadgets and parts is negligible as a fraction of their R&D budget. For many startups it’s nearly 100 percent.
Chaos is not good for business and multiplies risks at their root, which gets magnified by orders of magnitude in financial terms when looking at investment and finance.
100:1 bets with 1000:1 odds just becomes 100:1 bets with 100:1 odds, a bet no longer worth taking.
Sad.
It worked for my brother! But at some point I asked my parents: but how can this work then!? What does it do with “motion “?
My parents told me to be silent and later, when my brother couldn’t hear, told me it was just to release static electricity but they told my brother it was against motion sickness and him believing that made it work for him.
At the time this was pretty shocking to me.
In fact, it seems so promising, that it raises my hackles of suspicion. I would very much like to see other researchers replicate this. I am automatically more skeptical than I would be of most research because if humming a certain note were an effective treatment for motion sickness, then it would be rather surprising that people had not already discovered this property -- possibly just by listening to various pieces of music.
Just as research which suggests a surprising outcome or one inconsistent with existing theories must meet a higher bar, so too does research which suggests a simple cure that it was already possible for people to stumble across.
[0] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjourn...
They are just trying to alleviate motion sickness from those old suspensions.
And they really are nauseating. I put aftermarket springs on my car that were only supposed to lower it an inch, and instead got 2.5" of nauseating, pavement-slamming sag. Removed those with a quickness.
> Results: The effect of short-term (≤5 min) exposure to a pure tone of 80–85 dBZ (= 60.9–65.9 dBA) at 100 Hz on motion sickness was investigated in mice and humans. A mouse study showed a long-lasting (≥120 min) alleviative effect on shaking-mediated exacerbated beam test scores by 5-min exposure to a pure tone of 85 dBZ at 100 Hz, which was ex vivo determined as a sound activating vestibular function, before shaking. Human studies further showed that 1-min exposure to a pure tone of 80–85 dBZ (= 60.9–65.9 dBA) at 100 Hz before shaking improved the increased envelope areas in posturography caused by the shakings of a swing, a driving simulator and a vehicle. Driving simulator-mediated activation of sympathetic nerves assessed by the heart rate variable (HRV) and vehicle-mediated increased scores of the MSAQ were improved by pure tone exposure before the shaking.
For mild motion sickness from VR, I like to chew ginger root. Ginger candies are good too, especially if you don't like straight ginger root.
A few users has already reported to me that it works~
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https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=NTUcoR8_pyE&si=5cdUmgT9sDo...
"They told us all they wanted was a sound that could kill someone from a distance..."
"The brown note (sometimes brown tone or frequency) is a hypothetical infrasonic frequency capable of causing fecal incontinence by creating acoustic resonance in the human bowel. Considered an urban myth, the name is a metonym for the common color of human faeces. Attempts to demonstrate the existence of a "brown note" using sound waves transmitted through the air have failed. Frequencies supposedly involved are between 5 and 9 Hz, which are below the lower frequency limit of human hearing. High-power sound waves below 20 Hz are felt in the body."
During the production of the first Hellraiser film, [the band Coil] were asked by director Clive Barker to compose the film's score. Their music was described by Barker as "bowel churning." The group completed nine tracks for the score, however the music was rejected by the producers, who wanted a more traditional, classical-based movie score.
https://www.discogs.com/release/197912-Coil-The-Unreleased-T...
Coil is the only group I’ve heard on disc whose records I’ve taken off because they made my bowels churn. -- Clive Barker
[Note: AStonesThrow met Clive Barker at San Diego Comic Con in the mid-1990s, and presented this very disc for his autograph, and he obligingly signed it with the Sharpie provided. Very nice guy in person. Yes: Coil's music is disgusting, reprehensible, vile, and usually unlistenable. Stay well away.]
Doing this airborne would of course require an 800, 1200 or even 2400 Hhz tone depending on if the power supply was 2, 3 or 6 phase.
/S - yes, it's a joke about DC power supply ripple