It's funny how people strech the definition of things. But hey, if it worked for HD it shall work for everything.
So it doesn't even work in mice... how about we get that working first. Then maybe grow chickens/cows for meat. Then write "revolutionize medicine" headlines.
By early 2000's this idea isn't that novel honestly. When it comes to movies what is truly novel anyways?
Fun fact: I had a substitute teacher in school who spent the whole period arguing with the class about how it was inevitable whole people would be cloned for organ transplants.
Ever since I found out about Never Let Me Go, I've been wondering where he got the idea.
Intentionally breeding people that have no intelligence is a very different thing and I don't even know why we're talking about it as if it's even remotely similar.
> The reason why you'd pull the plug is because there is no prospect of survival
Same goes for a body bred to have no brain, surely. Of course that moves the dilemma to "is it ethical to create humans with no possibility of survival", which is a different question equally worth debating.
The problem of a) people ruining their health and b) not having enough donor organs can be solved much easier by encouraging active transport over the personal 2t metal box, reducing sugar, salt and others in our processed foods and of course legislation to make organ donations possible even without the deceased having agreed before. The opt-out in countries like Austria and Spain raises the level of awareness but of course still needs excellent communication.
[1] https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/jan/19/charles-darw...
On eugenics - isn’t consensual eugenics okay? I feel like the potentially bad parts of eugenics, like murder, are already considered immoral for other reasons. Feels like a baby:bathwater situation.
Not sure what eugenics has to do with this, I feel like my post was misunderstood.
Well, you said it yourself, they are entitled to a mouse's worth of moral rights :).
i start to consider this "human value == intelligence" line of thinking as hate speech, eugenetics-based racism, and endorsement of violence. no. human value is not based solely on intelligence level (whatever that would be - i doubt if scientists even broadly agree what intelligence is and how to measure it), but on being the member of the homo species. period. nothing else. a human is a human even he was born without an actual brain organ in his skull. stop killing the future of humanity.
Most of them would become presidents of the USA. And no, i'm not talking about Trump.
There are even militaries that are actively (right now) stealing human organs and distributing them to the civilian sector during conflict:
https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/27/israel-stealing-organs-f...
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34503294
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2009/12/21/israel-admits-to-o...
https://researchcentre.trtworld.com/featured/perspectives/de...
>Such technologies, together with established genetic techniques to inhibit brain development, make it possible to envision the creation of “bodyoids”—a potentially unlimited source of human bodies, developed entirely outside of a human body from stem cells, that lack sentience or the ability to feel pain.
Where have I seen this before? Isn't this a plotline taken directly from numerous dystopian science fiction books and movies I have experienced? Life imitates art. Was this outcome inevitable? Think Aldous Huxley 'Brave New World'.
I much rather use non-sentient bodies wherever possible.
They will be the only ones capable of affording this service. Reminds me of meths from the altered carbon series.