68 pointsby ingve2 days ago5 comments
  • nfriedly2 days ago
    I just sent nebula an email outlining his complaints and my basic agreement with them. I've been a nebula subscriber for a long time and want to see them succeed - if Jeff's concerns are true (and I know the first one is - I thought they were working on comments when I signed up 5 years ago!), they're probably turning off more creators than just Jeff.
    • immibis20 hours ago
      I think unlike YouTube or Floatplane, Nebula feels just fine being a closed system. Nebula is designed to be a single place where you go to view the content from the producers who run Nebula, not a single place for any content whatsoever.

      They should absolutely try to make that set as big as possible though to increase incentives for paying for it.

  • starkparker2 days ago
    I still don't understand the business models for sites like Floatplane. Microtransactions didn't work for media, but microsubscriptions will?

    Dropout's model seems to be the sanest for this kind of thing: $6/month, but for a variety of content from a cross-pollinated group of creators. It's independent and niche, but there's enough variety that something in there ends up both worth the subscription and unlikely to have existed entirely on its own.

    Paying $5/month for more content, but from _just one creator_, always feels at best like a worse deal in comparison to a more expensive but broader subscription service. At worst, it turns into a gateway to Twitch-like (or OnlyFans-like, depending on the content) parasocial entitlement from fans.

    • kevincox2 days ago
      > Paying $5/month for more content, but from _just one creator_, always feels at best like a worse deal

      The problem is that only a tiny number of users are actually going to sign up anyways, so you need to extract more value from them. Say he makes $0.50/month from the average subscriber on YouTube. If he charged $0.50/month for his Floatplane channel he would actually loose money, because the people that sign up on Floatplane are going to be above average subscribers. So he needs to charge more to break even. But as he raises the price he is even more heavily filtering for the biggest fans, which were bringing them in top percentile revenue on YouTube, making the problem even worse. This means that these platforms are always going to be priced to profit off the whales, rather than the casual users who enjoy watching some videos from these channels. Maybe in some beautiful feature where publishing on separate platforms becomes normalized this will change, but it is very far in the future and a huge roadblock to getting to that future.

  • cmurf2 days ago
    Author is keeping content on YT but also now on Floatplane. Discusses Floatplane. RAID1 is just a metaphor.
    • geerlingguy2 days ago
      The actual videos that I store locally are in RAIDZ6, replicated using ZFS snapshots to two local online copies, with a third copy every night pushing data up to an Amazon S3 Glacier Deep Archive vault :)
      • mvanbaak2 days ago
        RAIDZ2 you mean? (which is comparable with RAID-6). Or do you really run 6 parity disks in your vdev?
      • mikestorrent2 days ago
        While it's nice to have a backup video site, it really makes me miss the 90s style internet, where we had protocols and servers separated from clients.

        What you really need is to be able to trivially publish videos to something like IPFS, and have a large contingent of folks out there using convenient local video apps so there's a market for the content. I could imagine something like "community indexes" (perhaps a spiritual descendant of Usenet) to help find content, playlists, etc. and handle recommendation ML stuff locally.

        If we had been a little more wise and avoided the walled gardens of social networks in favour of identi.ca or GNU social etc. aeons ago, we would be in a better state now in many ways.

        • dehrmann2 days ago
          > 90s style internet

          In the early days of the internet, people would host servers out of a university lab or their home for fun or to give back to the community. This didn't scale as more people came online. There were too many people and too few hosts. Protocols moved slower than product development. People needed to download apps (and this was before app stores). So the corporate web won.

        • geerlingguy2 days ago
          PeerTube is supposedly that, but it has many of the same drawbacks of self-hosting anything that gets mildly popular.

          Once it gets more traffic, you get more bots, more AI tools pulling all the content, more botnets and DDoS attempts, eventually have to deal with governments and DMCA...

          It's tough :(

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      • skyyler2 days ago
        I understand if you don't want to disclose this, but I'm very curious. Can you give a rough estimate of how much your Glacier Deep Archive usage costs?
        • seized2 days ago
          It's about $1USD/TB/month (varies slightly by AWS region). Unless you need to retrieve and download, where it works out to about $90USD/TB.
        • geerlingguy2 days ago
          For 13 TB of data, it's something like $20/month? That includes the S3 calls to check all data and upload new stuff.
          • skyyler2 days ago
            That's pretty reasonable, honestly. Thanks!
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      • geerlingguy2 days ago
        Haha if I had no scruples, I would've taken a RAID Shadow Legends sponsorship to make an entire joke video about RAID. They send an offer every month or two, ugh.

        When a sponsor is that persistent, and they offer something "free" to people, alarm bells go off.

        • blitzar2 days ago
          I am not even certain they would be against being made a joke of, they might even pay extra for it. Any publicity is good publicity.
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