The internals themselves are quite nicely engineered as you'd expect
Well that’s your first problem. Unless you’re using corporate email?
> modern email
That can't be true. Now, I haven't used Outlook myself, but I've received enough garbage from that godforsaken relic of a time when MS wanted to EEE email to know that that can't be true.
FWIW, I've posted patches to the PG mailing list just fine with GMail. The web app, that is.
It's a very FOSS pathology.
If anything, this kind of excessive legal and process red tape is much more common in enterprise-driven vs. community-driven open source projects.
> excessive legal and process red tape
I just wanna hit "Send" in my standard email client, not set up pine and debug a mail spooler
The writing is horrendous
Though, the core of my issue with this is not the language itself, but how the paragraphs are structured. Imho you might cut 50% of words and not lose any information.
First thought: If a sports team is not playing well, do you mail in coaching advice?
I elaborated a bit here, though: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43254469
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43254469
> I'm also a non-native English speaker, and the bit you provided sounds very easy to understand because of how it's phrased.
Thanks for your point. It felt to me like reading overly verbose code. Not wrong, but not effective.
e.g., instead of:
Transaction logs are an essential part of databases because they ensure that no data is lost even when a system failure occurs. They are a history log of all changes and actions in a database system. This ensures that no data is lost due to failures, such as a power failure or a server crash. The log contains sufficient information about each transaction that has already been executed, so the database server can recover the database cluster by replaying the changes and actions in the transaction log in the event of a server crash.
something like:
Transaction logs keep a record of all changes in a database. This allows data recovery in case of system failures like power outages or server crashes. They store enough information to replay transactions. This can restore the database to its last consistent state.
Transaction logs then, are a separate record of these transactions into a log file. The quote says they are 'essential' but three paragraphs later in the link[0] is this: "The [log] mechanism was first implemented in version 7.1"; transaction logs are not essential for RDBMSs and are not essential for ensuring against data loss, they are one part of one larger design for reducing the chance of data loss. (Having a separate log file does not ensure that no data is lost in the event of a crash because the log file could also be lost by the same crash).
"so the database server can recover the database cluster" - the quote has switched from transaction logs as essential, to clustering-with-transaction-logs as essential, without clearly calling that out; there are clustering designs which don't need transaction logs so that isn't essential, and from the PostgreSQL documentation[1]: "It should be noted that log shipping is asynchronous, i.e., the [logs] are shipped after transaction commit. As a result, there is a window for data loss...". Neither transaction logs, nor log shipping clustering, are enough to ensure no data loss. It is possible to improve on that with synchronous_commit[2] (off by default in PostgreSQL) but that can still be designed badly to allow data loss to happen.
The quote is misleading about what transaction logs are for, what situations they can/cannot help with, and what other concerns are involved in guarding against data loss. Given that data loss is a particularly important concern in relational databases compared to some other software and systems, and that there are so many details which need to be considered to reduce risks of data loss, the quote being at all vague or misleading seems worse than it would be if writing about other systems, and worse than it would be if written in the context of 'a high level overview of databases'.
[0] http://www.interdb.jp/pg/pgsql09.html
[1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/17/warm-standby.html
[2] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/17/warm-standby.html#SYNCHRO...
That seems entirely consistent with that quote.
Also, tangential.
Why so angry?