14 pointsby themingusa day ago15 comments
  • spl7574 hours ago
    I run my own IT. I host my own email, authoritative DNS, web, etc. I use wireguard for a lot of stuff. I put stuff behind cloudflare. I'm sneaky when I need to be, but mostly I'm just a control freak. I also know way more than the average person about email and email authentication. Or lack thereof.

    Every entity gets it's own email address. As others have pointed out, it lets me track who ends up with it. Sometimes I find it surprising, mostly I don't. Sometimes, though, people are up to some shit.

    edit to say that those actually creating mailboxes for everything should just use aliases that funnel to a single mailbox. So much easier to maintain than having to have a huge keepass db.

    edit 2 employ dmarc if you want to see who is trying really game

  • LinuxBender17 hours ago
    I use canaries. I point a dozen domains to fastmail and another dozen to my self hosted email servers. Each have aliases that are mapped to vendors but do not have the vendor name as some vendors are getting upset at this practice and calling it fraud. If I start getting garbage on that alias, I notify the vendor. In most cases they will give me a boiler plate response and then I delete the alias. If they are snarky I create a reject rule with my own snark that also explains the emails for that vendor have been either sold or compromised. This is to let people buying email addresses know they bought a dirty list as some of the modern bots have some telemetry.
  • ntw1103a day ago
    I care. I use a generated email address at my domain for every account/service/website. I store the account info in keepass, they all have generated passwords too. I can see when email comes in who abused the email, was compromised, or sold it. If an email starts getting spam, i block receiving to that address. if desired, I update the account to have another generated email, but usually if I'm getting spam to that email I don't want to do business with them again.
    • m463a day ago
      I do the exact same thing.

      It gives you quite a bit of insight and control.

      some examples:

      - at some point my email for amazon was shared, and I started getting offers from some vendor to 5-star review one of their products on amazon. I changed my amazon email address. (I generally trust amazon)

      - emails from my bank have to go to a specific email address. I can be pretty certain it is my bank contacting me.

      - I generally do not give my email address to retail stores. On several occasions I've given it to them for deliveries, telling them it isn't for anything but for the delivery. I'd say 80% of stores are super disrespectful of this. One spammed me every. single. day. with offers, until I got the delivery and turned off that email address.

      - I once gave out a specific email address to a friend. He shared it with a second person to coordinate all of us meeting. and then I started getting phished so we figured out that the second person had his email compromised.

      - I rented a car from hertz and had to give an email address. and then they sold it to other companies.

      - linkedin stuff. easy to spot fakes since they don't go to my linkedin email address. Also easy to spot emails from people contacting me who got the email from linkedin.

      It goes on and on. More people should do this.

    • wruza19 hours ago
      Does that work? I mean if I had that rule, I wouldn’t do business with almost anyone again. How does that help even?
  • wruza19 hours ago
    I do not. I have three mail boxes, for trashy, job-y and personal things. And a couple of technical (apple id, etc).

    Gmail is really good at filtering spam, so I probably looked into it and found a letter that I waited for only one time in last few years. My inboxes are either empty or may get first non-spam marketing emails that I unsubscribe from immediately. Unread count zero.

    Idk why people fortify their email that much and investigate who does what. Have no issues nor hesitation with leaving my work email at any local org.

  • heartaga day ago
    Fastmail offers per-service generated addresses. I think it's kind of fascinating to watch my email address that went solely to my local credit union start sending me spam somewhat related to my employer.
    • agarrena day ago
      Fastmail allows for aliasing too - username@domain.tld -> bank@username.domain.tld, retailer@username.domain.tld, etc. Pretty convenient. I use that feature pretty often and I can only recall one instance which seemed to indicate my address was sold to spammers. It’s more useful for organizing incoming mail, like plus-aliasing in gmail.
  • marssaxmana day ago
    Sure do - though I have my own domain, so I don't need subaddressing. If some address gets compromised, I just set it to bounce.
  • meowstera day ago
    Yes.

    I use a catch-all. I can accept (whatever)@mydomain.tld

    Anytime a new company wants my email address, I just randomly give them one.

    So far I only get spam to the email addresses other people posted on a website as contacts for organizations I volunteer with.

    (I get spam from web scraping, not from company hacks/sharing etc.)

    • itakea day ago
      JW, why?

      Do you get so much spam from a specific email that you feel safe to ban it completely? Are you able to sue them or just send a strongly worded email about how they sold your email?

      • meowstera day ago
        Before this, when just using a single email address, I had no idea where the spam was coming from.

        Now I know where the spam (I get) comes from.

        I haven't had to ban any addresses yet.

  • sans_souse19 hours ago
    I care but don't have time or the resources. What I have made a habit of tho is registering to any new website or service using example any.name@gmail.com → register using a.nyname@gmail.com. I then take note of which variant / which service.

    I have no idea if this works the way I expect it logically could or should, but if it does I guess I have some data to go thru.

  • dakiol21 hours ago
    I use iCloud’s Hide my Email feature. So I have dozen email addresses and I receive email in the same inbox. I don’t care how my email addresses are used. The moment I see too much spam, I remove the email address.
  • larrybuda day ago
    Yes, I’ve done this for years. And to be honest, I don’t think I’ve ever “caught” a business sharing a service when they shouldn’t have. Makes me question why continue to do it.
    • simmonsa day ago
      I've been doing this for years, as well. I've also found that the majority of companies I give an email address to are actually surprisingly good stewards of that information. However, I have found a number of email leaks. It looks like my block list is up to 31 addresses. Most of those are leaks that led to spam. (Although one was a smoothie chain that insisted on sending me email every single day, and their unsubscribe page always seemed to be "malfunctioning".)

      I don't think all or most of these companies on the list are intentionally selling my address to spammers. I suspect most of these leaks are due to poor handling of the data or server compromises. (Surely Adobe, for example, isn't so desperate that they would sell my address to spammers.) But whether by malice or incompetence, I can easily block them.

  • fragmedea day ago
    The important detail is to add random nonce/salt to the generated email, like _jri68, so that it's not guessable, so it's provable that the database was compromised. Guessing bestbuy@example.com is believable, but guessing bestbuy_jri68@example.com, is not.
  • 0x073a day ago
    Yes every service gets a custom address.

    It's also interesting that some services don't allow COMPANYNAME@mydomain.com for registration. (Can't remember which)

  • coderatlargea day ago
    I care. Maintain a collection of emails per tier of service plus some Apple obfuscation.
  • joshstrangea day ago
    I have a catch-all domain but I don’t bother to setup unique emails for each service. It’s too much of a headache and you have to ask yourself:

    If I find out someone sold/shared/leaked my email what am I going to do?

    Here the possible responses as I see it:

    * Stop doing business with them - This is way easier said than done

    * Be mad - ok, great, now what?

    * Send a strongly worded email - again, so what?

    * Sue them? - Good luck

    Selling or sharing my email address is a shitty thing to do, but my recourse is extremely limited and really ends up with me just being angry with nothing to do about it. Given that I’ve decided just to not care.

    There are many things in life that I once cared about or once got worked up about that I don’t anymore because I’ve realized that it’s just not worth it. I’ve tried to identify more and more the things that get me mad, but don’t affect any change and then purge those things from my life. Life is too short to spend your time worrying about things like who sells your email.

  • Flemitploa day ago
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