But then it derailed. Really hard.
It's so sad to see Turkey turn out like this, but there's nobody that can do anything except their own citizens.
They have a handicap though, they are muslim. That's why EU does not want them. But EU is playing theater and gives them false hopes.
edit after 1 upvote: I should add that I believe that Discord has an immense amount of moderation-debt.
Due to its closed nature, there aren't external eyeballs on the communities so things can really fester. At some point, that can boil-over into IRL, like they appear to have just done in Turkey.
What I meant was moderation. And they do moderate, whether you like it or not. CSAM, conspiracy to murder, and terrorism are beyond the pale for nearly everybody. All of those things require moderation if a company wants to stay in business.
Feels like a less centralized reddit, which sounds like something for which there definitely exists a decently large market.
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HackerNews, mails, letters, conversations.
The end.
> The block comes after public outrage in Turkey caused by the murder of two women by a 19-year-old man in Istanbul this month. Content on social media showed Discord users subsequently praising the killing.
This is what would happen anywhere else in the world, see the last incident between France and telegram
On every single large social media platform, people praise and applaud the death of individuals and entire races of people, all the time. Yet Facebook, Twitter and related sites aren't blocked in most of the world. What's up with that?
If murder or terrorism happened in France or UK and a social media platform refused to assist the authorities, There. Would. Be. Consequences.
You don't want to upset people from the capital (Washington). /s
lmao wtf no it wouldn't. Truth Social is used literally every day (by some) to call for the assassination of politicians belonging to the Democractic party, the party currently in power, and it has not been banned.
Maybe Erdogan and the rest of Turkey should grow a slightly thicker skin.
They seem not to be a fan of social media in general, and have blocked a long list of social media sites. They even blocked Wikipedia until their constitutional court overturned the ban.
It’s also true that they do have a point in this unfortunate event.
Both can be true.
> This is what would happen anywhere else in the world, see the last incident between France and telegram
Telegram wasn't banned in France
There is a (very wide) spectrum between full censorship due to a few "users" and complete freedom to the point of being the backbone of illegal cartels
And why does everyone who replies to me leave behind the main point on the article?
It’s not “just” people said something’s here. It’s that in response to a very real crime , the authorities were denied assistance by the platform.
It’s like saying that telegram was in trouble because people said some stuff. Nope, telegram in trouble for not cooperating with the government.
Doesn't seem to be even slightly true, as not every website in the world has that crap.
I once noticed something "interesting" about how Taiwan was labelled in some country data, and my comment was also flagged and deleted like this.
It seems the moderation on HN is getting very strict.
Sadly it often means I see interesting discussions where the original base comment is gone. At least the follow ups are not scrubbed.
But I would have appreciated an option to reveal flagged content, maybe after accepting a warning message.