I initially submitted without comment, but just want to also say:

This is a looong conversation between Kelsey and Gergely, but I feel it's worth watching (whatever that means coming from someone you don't know).

There's plenty of really valuable insights into both Kelsey's mindset and attitude, which I really appreciated and connected with, from the path taken, to things probably all learn in our careers.

And absolutely loved the arch of the conversation, the value for us later in our careers is likely towards the last half of the video, but it does make me really appreciate the storytelling I feel we should all share with our peers and our younger colleagues.

Hope you are fortunate enough to have or can find the time to enjoy this, I really enjoy the "exit plan".